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#1219979 22-Jan-2015 12:16

The information on the page (I always thought) is an estimate of what is available.
You are referring to www.chorus.co.nz/sat, right?

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#1219981 22-Jan-2015 12:17

I was always under the assumption that the yellow (1-5mbit) area on the maps were conklins if they dont border a pink area which would indicate the distance factor.

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#1219983 22-Jan-2015 12:18

https://www.chorus.co.nz/network-upgrade-map

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#1220046 22-Jan-2015 12:58

and quoting from the same webpage I presume you got that diagram from they say the same thing... right to left.

http://www.mathsisfun.com/equal-less-greater.html

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#1220059 22-Jan-2015 13:03

hotrok: now i am going mad i mean you read left to right......!!!!

My point is still valid however. It "should" be less than 5mbit so Chorus don't know how to maths.

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#1220082 22-Jan-2015 13:39

I agree it should read that from the Chorus website but I really think they mean greater than as yes its possible in those zones to have more than 1mb/5mb/20mb but cabinet/exchange dependant

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#1220171 22-Jan-2015 15:28

I am fairly certain that the map polygons indicate estimated downstream sync rate. For xDSL there is
>20 (VDSL)
>10 (ADSL2+ with reasonable line length)
>5 (ADSL1 or very long line)
>1 (it's still way more than dial up!)

The maps do not reference what backhaul there is, or what hardware is delivering the connection, so for some areas on older hardware (Conklins etc.) you cannot saturate your downstream sync rate.

I think what the OP is getting at is it would be useful to either highlight areas where you cannot reasonably expect to saturate your downstream connection, or provide an estimate as to what throughput you might reasonably expect, rather than just the expect sync rate. Of course throughput is dependant on far more than just the sync rate and cabinet backhaul, so that's where it gets complicated.....

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#1220257 22-Jan-2015 17:16

chorus maps tell me i'm in a "Broadband >10Mbps" area, but my max connection speed is around 7500Kbps. I have 'perfect' internal wiring, and a splitter installed by coffeebaron. the maps lie.

the question, however, is whether they are legally obliged to provide/meet that claim. If so, by when.

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#1221295 24-Jan-2015 11:04

Wow hoomans of geekzone.
When did you not realize these maps are an INDICATIVE reading.
"serving as a sign or indication of something."

It clearly states to perform a qualification to determine your results effectively.

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#1221309 24-Jan-2015 11:27

I have a master splitter installed by DarthKermit. I'm pretty happy with our ADSL2 speeds here.

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#1221310 24-Jan-2015 11:47

TimA: Wow hoomans of geekzone.
When did you not realize these maps are an INDICATIVE reading.
"serving as a sign or indication of something." It clearly states to perform a qualification to determine your results effectively.

Would a qualification have shown that the OP was crippled by local congestion? The modem sync speed is as advertised on the map.

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#1221339 24-Jan-2015 12:56

I have removed a few replies about the incorrect "maths lesson" as they're wrong and we don't want people having the wrong ideas.

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#1221403 24-Jan-2015 15:21

graemeh:
TimA: Wow hoomans of geekzone.
When did you not realize these maps are an INDICATIVE reading.
"serving as a sign or indication of something." It clearly states to perform a qualification to determine your results effectively.

Would a qualification have shown that the OP was crippled by local congestion? The modem sync speed is as advertised on the map.

It would identify the estimated sync speeds. Chorus can also check for congestion on the prequal if asked.
So yes if specific about it congestion can be looked into.

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#1221404 24-Jan-2015 15:22

raytaylor: I was always under the assumption that the yellow (1-5mbit) area on the maps were conklins if they dont border a pink area which would indicate the distance factor.

Your quite accurate but that theory can only be held to assumption.

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#1221618 24-Jan-2015 23:40

TimA:
graemeh:
TimA: Wow hoomans of geekzone.
When did you not realize these maps are an INDICATIVE reading.
"serving as a sign or indication of something." It clearly states to perform a qualification to determine your results effectively.

Would a qualification have shown that the OP was crippled by local congestion? The modem sync speed is as advertised on the map.

It would identify the estimated sync speeds. Chorus can also check for congestion on the prequal if asked.
So yes if specific about it congestion can be looked into.

So unless you ask specifically then Chorus don't check for congestion.

That is not ideal but it is good to know if your ISP is switched on they will ask the right questions of Chorus.

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