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#1225599 30-Jan-2015 19:21

Attached image is of the next door neighbour's place. I guess they will have sun fun talks if they ever want to get UFB.

It took nearly three months to get permission from WE to use the pole (requested in January 2014, granted in April) for our UFB installation. You can see in the bottom of the pic where the fibre comes up for the two houses. The actually had to go under the footpath so they could run the fibre up the pole, even though they had permission to dig a trench across our front lawn which was just dirt. Seems daft to me but apparently if everything else was aerial, they had to go aerial as well. Go figure.

For amusement, dangling there is also an old VF cable that was replaced when the nails used to attach it to the house rusted through it and screwed with our connection. No idea why they just left it there.

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#1225608 30-Jan-2015 19:26

That makes the 13-cable pole outside my place look pretty!

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#1225613 30-Jan-2015 19:29

Behodar: That makes the 13-cable pole outside my place look pretty!

I can't say I live in the fanciest part of town...

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#1225614 30-Jan-2015 19:29

EEK, double post :(

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#1225618 30-Jan-2015 19:37

Thank christ there are no power or telephone poles in my street or neighbourhood. Everything is underground, except for some cheapo fence mounted UFB jobs.

Whatifthespacekeyhadneverbeeninvented?

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#1225731 31-Jan-2015 01:44

Gobit:
chevrolux: Hahahahaha I love seeing these threads.

Surely Chorus and Wellington Electricity could have come to some arrangement whereby when Downer lays the fibre to the base of a power pole for Chorus, Downer at the same time assesses for Wellington Electricity whether any more cables can be safely strung up on that particular pole.

Surely that would be a heck of a lot more efficient and cost effective than Downer laying fibre on Day 1, coming back on say Day 85 to see whether House A can have an aerial connection from Pole Z, on Day 97 to see whether next door House B can have a connection from Pole Z and Day 230 to see whether Pole Z is strong enough to provide an aerial connection to House C!

Cheers, Gobit

The permission from Wellington Electricity has to be sought individually for each customer. If 1 pole feeds 5 houses, thats 5 individual applications for permission to use the pole from (as you point out) the same company that laid the fibre to the base of the pole.
Could you think of a more inefficient system? Little wonder it takes 3 months.

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#1225732 31-Jan-2015 01:45

Brumfondl: Attached image is of the next door neighbour's place. I guess they will have sun fun talks if they ever want to get UFB.

It took nearly three months to get permission from WE to use the pole (requested in January 2014, granted in April) for our UFB installation. You can see in the bottom of the pic where the fibre comes up for the two houses. The actually had to go under the footpath so they could run the fibre up the pole, even though they had permission to dig a trench across our front lawn which was just dirt. Seems daft to me but apparently if everything else was aerial, they had to go aerial as well. Go figure.

For amusement, dangling there is also an old VF cable that was replaced when the nails used to attach it to the house rusted through it and screwed with our connection. No idea why they just left it there.

Brumfondl

Love that tree. That makes my problem seem miniscule by comparison.
That's gonna be a stump if they want fibre.

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#1225734 31-Jan-2015 03:44

Wellington's District Plan may recognise that owners can cut trees on private property unless formally protected but that tree looks as if it is on the footpath. I don't think the Council would cut a street tree just for fibre. Those conditions seem unreasonable and deserve some public ridicule.

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#1225749 31-Jan-2015 08:07

chevrolux: Hahahahaha I love seeing these threads.

Makes me feel good about dogging on putting UFB on poles. It should have never been made an acceptable installation method.

chevrolux, I remember asking you a while ago if you'd be prepared to dig your own trench (for a UFB connection at your home), if Chorus bitched about the cost of going underground. I think said bitching's going to be a given, eh?

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#1225751 31-Jan-2015 08:25

alexps:
Brumfondl: Attached image is of the next door neighbour's place. I guess they will have sun fun talks if they ever want to get UFB.

It took nearly three months to get permission from WE to use the pole (requested in January 2014, granted in April) for our UFB installation. You can see in the bottom of the pic where the fibre comes up for the two houses. The actually had to go under the footpath so they could run the fibre up the pole, even though they had permission to dig a trench across our front lawn which was just dirt. Seems daft to me but apparently if everything else was aerial, they had to go aerial as well. Go figure.

For amusement, dangling there is also an old VF cable that was replaced when the nails used to attach it to the house rusted through it and screwed with our connection. No idea why they just left it there.

Brumfondl

Love that tree. That makes my problem seem miniscule by comparison.
That's gonna be a stump if they want fibre.

Being a native, it'd require resource consent (along with all the required notification procedures and time for objections etc) from the council to cut that tree down. A radical trim might be in order. Can't quite figure if this is Strathmore or Newtown - I'm guessing the latter.

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#1225753 31-Jan-2015 08:33

Looks like Newtown to me too. Maybe in the zoo area?

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#1225761 31-Jan-2015 08:48

Bung: Wellington's District Plan may recognise that owners can cut trees on private property unless formally protected but that tree looks as if it is on the footpath. I don't think the Council would cut a street tree just for fibre. Those conditions seem unreasonable and deserve some public ridicule.

It also looks like a Pohutakawa - and all native trees are protected under the district plan.

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#1225764 31-Jan-2015 09:01

"The Wellington City Council views trees on private property as private property. Owners may trim or fell trees without running foul of council by-laws. In some circumstances, the council may require owners to trim trees back where public footpaths or roads are obstructed by overgrown shrubs and overhanging branches.

The only exception to this general rule is where a tree is listed as a “notable” or “heritage” tree. The Heritage List can be accessed on the council’s website. This list is specific and detailed. Owners will be able to immediately identify any listed tree by the address and species of the tree."

This is off a law firm Rainey Collin's site. The last time I waded through the district plan pdf there was no blanket protection based on type. This isn't Auckland.

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#1225771 31-Jan-2015 09:51

Those houses are closer to the street than the distance Enable had to thrust under our drive, so why isn't fibre going underground?

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#1225777 31-Jan-2015 10:23

sbiddle:
Bung: Wellington's District Plan may recognise that owners can cut trees on private property unless formally protected but that tree looks as if it is on the footpath. I don't think the Council would cut a street tree just for fibre. Those conditions seem unreasonable and deserve some public ridicule.

It also looks like a Pohutakawa - and all native trees are protected under the district plan.

Dont forget, they will need to put in place road control, notify the neighbours, listen to objections, hold a hearing then get a professional to supervise the student who will do the work :-)

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