Where do I start ? Patch Pannel. New House.

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#226155 23-Dec-2017 10:37

I have read through this topic an have basic understanding. I think if i do enough research i should be able to sort this out.

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#1923951 23-Dec-2017 10:43

Is somebody not coming back to finish the wiring job?

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#1923953 23-Dec-2017 10:50

Would you want that installer back?

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#1923960 23-Dec-2017 11:02

k1w1k1d:

Would you want that installer back?

There is nothing in that photo to suggest they're no good.. It's just simply a job that's not finished.

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#1923963 23-Dec-2017 11:05

I need to confirm contract with my sparky but i suspect my contract with him was was to just run the cables. He did make mention earlier about a cable guy sorting out my tv's.

Anyway, if he is not going to do it its down to either me or the cable guy in which case i ok with trying to work through it.

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#1923964 23-Dec-2017 11:06

I guess it also depends what you actually want to do. If you live in an average sized house you'll have a perfectly functional broadband connection right now using WiFi only.

All the data cables need to be punched down to a frame and the RG6 terminated and put onto a splitter. If you want Ethernet to outlets you simply need to patch these from the router to the frame once it's installed.

The only problem is (and it's the same problem in pretty much every new build is that leaving the router inside the cabinet if the worse place for it. The metal kills the WiFi, so if you live in a larger sized house you won't get good WiFi coverage.

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#1924004 23-Dec-2017 11:12

The fact that it has been left unfinished when the owner has presumably taken possession of his new house was my main concern.

Also looks like it will be rather tight for space once completed?

External power point with lead running under edge of lid?

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#1924005 23-Dec-2017 11:14

No matter who does it make sure that everything is labelled so that you know where it all goes and comes from.

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#1924006 23-Dec-2017 11:17

k1w1k1d:

The fact that it has been left unfinished when the owner has presumably taken possession of his new house was my main concern.

Also looks like it will be rather tight for space once completed?

External power point with lead running under edge of lid?

It will be very tight for space.

I suspect the external power is just because the power plug that's in the cabinet looks like a 2 way vertical which is no good if you have 2 vertical plug packs to fit into it.

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#1924016 23-Dec-2017 11:37

Shifting the router out of the cabinet will improve WiFi and add some room. Also will be able to use external plug, so won't need to run lead around door.

Have sparkies not heard that metal cabinets are a bit like a Faraday Cage?

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#1924061 23-Dec-2017 14:00

sbiddle:
I guess it also depends what you actually want to do. If you live in an average sized house you'll have a perfectly functional broadband connection right now using WiFi only.

All the data cables need to be punched down to a frame and the RG6 terminated and put onto a splitter. If you want Ethernet to outlets you simply need to patch these from the router to the frame once it's installed.

The only problem is (and it's the same problem in pretty much every new build is that leaving the router inside the cabinet if the worse place for it. The metal kills the WiFi, so if you live in a larger sized house you won't get good WiFi covterage.

Yes, i do have functional wifi but house is large so am getting occasional slow signal. If i understand you correctly the only reason i need data cables connected is to run tv's. ?

I only sat router in box for connection convienence. Have since moved it.

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#1924079 23-Dec-2017 14:54

no everything that can be wired should be wired, it will make the experience on wifi so much better.

you will likely need a couple of access points to put round the house to ensure good wifi or failing that a mesh kit like the netgear orbi or google wifi.

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#1924107 23-Dec-2017 15:05

Thanks

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#1924108 23-Dec-2017 15:12

So it's pretty straight-forward to trace where the lines go.

It's a pretty common problem for phone line installers.

The equipment is commonly called a "phone line tracer", or "RJ45 tracer."

Just google "RJ45 tracer site:nz", or look on trademe

Basically it's the tracer has two pieces, a powered box, and a separate wand.

- strip two wires on a cable

- hook a battery powered device on the wires

- use a wand that beeps as you get close to the wire (radio signal?)

Sort of like a Geiger counter.

You can either use it to find the wire in the wall, or just stick the tip near each RJ45 connector, and it'll beep loudly.

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#1924109 23-Dec-2017 15:16

I got this one which also has the better than nothing blinking light cable tester in it as well - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-RJ11-RJ45-Cat5-Cat6-Telephone-Wire-Tracker-Tracer-Toner-Ethernet-LAN-Network-Cable-Tester/32810274460.html and its great for finding wires.

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#1924110 23-Dec-2017 15:17

There is a small chance these wires are live. So if you see three wires, of the same size, don't mess with it.

I suspect the black wires run to your TV, or antenna, or similar.

It'll usually have a thin wire inside, surrounded by a black insulator, then a copper mesh, and more insulators.

The blue wires are probably network cables. They have 8 wires.
Blue & blue and white
Brown & brown & white
Green & green and white
Orange and Orange & white.

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