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#76089 28-Jan-2011 09:56
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Hi Guys,
Orcon just finished setting up IPv6 for my colocation this morning and sent me this email RE our address space:

IPv6 Assigned
Range 2400:4800:4005::0/48
Our Address 2400:4800:4005:8001::2/64
Customers Address Everything else

So they are using one of the /64 subnets within our range for the link address - all good, we have another few 10,000 left :). But what I can't figure out is how they actually route to us. E.g. they haven't told us what IPv6 address our router needs so they can route the rest of the subnets to us?


With Xnet they gave us 2001:e20:2000:9000::/56 which would be routed to whatever IP our router got given in the PPP I'm guessing?




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  #432346 28-Jan-2011 18:14
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so... what?

i thought chorus needed to upgrade their network for ipv6 to work on Telecom wholesale dsl...

unless your on unbundled....

buut what do i know.




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  #432376 28-Jan-2011 19:28
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hamish225: so... what?

i thought chorus needed to upgrade their network for ipv6 to work on Telecom wholesale dsl...

unless your on unbundled....

buut what do i know.


he said it was for a co-location, so nothing to do with chorus whatsoever.  time for people to stop singing 'chorus' at random, i think...




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  #432387 28-Jan-2011 19:47
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Update:

After giving it some thought they have majorly mucked up - there is no way that the linking range could be within our /48 subnet as otherwise how could they aggregate it... doah.

TBH I get the impression they actually don't know much at all about IPv6.

In regards to IPv6 on DSL, firstly it has nothing to do with Chorus as they provide just the lines. Secondly it doesn't even have anything to do with Telecom Wholesale as they provide a layer 2 service. I currently have IPv6 on my Xnet DSL connection at home which is provisioned over Telecom wholesale who provision over Chorus!




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  #432462 28-Jan-2011 22:13
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Either they are missing the /64 from your router and theirs or plan on using the local link address in it's place :)

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  #432997 31-Jan-2011 00:40
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Zeon: Hi Guys,
Orcon just finished setting up IPv6 for my colocation this morning and sent me this email RE our address space:

IPv6 Assigned
Range 2400:4800:4005::0/48
Our Address 2400:4800:4005:8001::2/64
Customers Address Everything else

So they are using one of the /64 subnets within our range for the link address - all good, we have another few 10,000 left :). But what I can't figure out is how they actually route to us. E.g. they haven't told us what IPv6 address our router needs so they can route the rest of the subnets to us?


With Xnet they gave us 2001:e20:2000:9000::/56 which would be routed to whatever IP our router got given in the PPP I'm guessing? 


I'd imagine they are listening on 2400:4800:4005:8001::1/64, and they are routing the entire /48 down that link  (i.e. you'd want a default route passing everything to 2400:4800:4005:8001::1  and a null route for unused /64's on your local router)

Double check with Orcon though, but my understanding is that this is the way many companies can do it.

For what it's worth, this is how some other service providers are assigning /48's, assigning the /48, and using the first /64 for routing between networks, including one I personally deal with.

If they are doing it this way, it's highly likely you'll be required to add a null0 route to avoid routing loops if someone tries to ping/connect to an IP within your /48 that isn't assigned.  But definitely, check with Orcon to be sure.

(Side note, why isn't this in the Orcon forum?)

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  #433062 31-Jan-2011 10:00
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Hi Zeon

Looks like someone has made a mistake.

There should be a /64 between Orcon and yourself. (which is not part of the /48).

:1 from that /64 is the default gw, and the :2 is your router.

The /48 is then routed to the :2 IP.

Makes sence?

I will get someone to contact you and give you a new /64.


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  #433077 31-Jan-2011 10:35
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Sounddude: Hi Zeon

Looks like someone has made a mistake.

There should be a /64 between Orcon and yourself. (which is not part of the /48).

:1 from that /64 is the default gw, and the :2 is your router.

The /48 is then routed to the :2 IP.

Makes sence?

I will get someone to contact you and give you a new /64.




Hi Soundude,
Yup that makes heaps more sense. THanks for your help, its really appreciated. TBH I think the problem lies in trying to tunnel all the info through our account manager - may be easier just to talk to the techs directly.

Our account manager is Rochelle and I have been dealing with Imran RE technical stuff.

At your DC I have requested a /26 IPv4 subnet to be routed to us via a /29 linking range and a /48 IPv6 subnet routed to us (over a /64 linking range by the sounds of it).

We have also requested an IPv6 subnet routed to our office internet connection (with a linking etc. too) which is 10mbps Telstra Fibre.

Cheers! 




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  #496356 21-Jul-2011 18:22
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OK we finally have full IPv6 connectivity as of around 1500 today lol. Looking at the dates it took orcon 6 months to get this sorted but at least its running. Speeds seem good, running a test atm to download a dummy file from our US server running at around 10mbps (our internet access speed for US server).




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  #496573 22-Jul-2011 10:31
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What was the reason for it taking to long?

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  #496657 22-Jul-2011 13:04
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It was a mixture of things I think. The first engineer whom our account manager talked to to get this sorted wasn't doing it and then apparently left. Then the next technician wouldn't reply to her emails/queries. She then tried a new technician and he had us running within 30mins.....

It's not a good look and TBH I think Orcon should be encouraging their technicians to be more customer orientated.




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