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Topic # 150393 21-Jul-2014 11:38
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The Domain Name Commission Limited (DNCL) is announced that from 1pm, 30 September 2014 a significantly amended .nz policy will come into effect.

From that date, people will be able to register shorter, simpler, more representative names immediately before the .nz – as well as the more familiar-looking options like ‘.co.nz’ and ‘.org.nz’.

All existing options like .co.nz, .org.nz and .govt.nz will continue to work as they always have and people will still be able to get names with them.

The change simply means that from 1pm, 30 September 2014 people will be able to get names with them, without them, or both.

For example, someone could get anyname.nz as well as anyname.co.nz.

Registering a name in this way is called ‘registering directly at the second level’. The decision to allow registrations directly at the second level was made last year by the InternetNZ Council and followed a number of public consultation rounds.

Importantly, many .nz domain name holders may be able to get the shorter version of their name if they want it and could take advantage of a six-month period of time – called the Preferential Registration Eligibility (PRE) period to register or reserve the shorter version.

The Preferential Registration Eligibility (PRE) period will begin at 1pm, 30 September 2014 and end at 1pm, 30 March 2015.

From 1pm, 30 September 2014 existing holders of .nz domain names will have different options open to them, depending on when they originally registered their name. They may, for example, be able to get the shorter version of their name before anyone else, reserve it for free for two years or manage conflicted name issues.

Domain Name Commissioner Debbie Monahan says the preferential eligibility options could be confusing for holders of .nz domain names. That’s why the Domain Name Commission will be working closely with the .nz Registrar community over the next few months to help them communicate the change with holders of .nz names – letting people know exactly where their name fits into the picture.

A Registrar is a company or organisation that people register domain names through.

A website at anyname.nz has been created by the Domain Name Commission for holders of .nz domain names to check out their options and learn more about what the change might mean for them. Anyname.nz also shows what the shorter .nz domain names will look like in a web browser from 1pm, 30 September 2014.

Monahan describes the policy change allowing registrations directly at the second level as a boon for choice – one that opens up an exciting new .nz registration possibility. She encourages all those with an existing .nz domain name to visit anyname.nz or contact their Registrar to check their options and learn more about what’s happening.

“The change keeps all the advantages of the current system while expanding choice. Other countries have already made a similar change and now New Zealand is too.”

Holders of .nz domain names wanting to find out more about this exciting, watershed change to the .nz domain name space should contact their Registrar or domain name provider or visit anyname.nz.




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  Reply # 1092921 21-Jul-2014 11:40
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  Reply # 1092923 21-Jul-2014 11:44
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freitasm: Hmmm. Now I have to register a few new domains, more revenue for them...


Yep, though I'm looking forward to the shorter URLs.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1092925 21-Jul-2014 11:46
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I already have shorter urls: gkz1.co is shorter than geekzone.nz, shorter than geekzone.co.nz 

But yes, that will cause confusion. Lucky there's the sunrise period for existing owners to buy domains...






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  Reply # 1092929 21-Jul-2014 11:47
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freitasm: I already have shorter urls: gkz1.co is shorter than geekzone.nz, shorter than geekzone.co.nz 


Yeah, but now you can have gkz1.nz (or shorter if you're lucky) instead of those weird Colombian domains. :-)

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  Reply # 1092948 21-Jul-2014 12:18
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Pleased to see that they have the sunrise period, but will be interesting to see who jumps on the generic names (pizza, beer, etc)



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  Reply # 1092952 21-Jul-2014 12:23
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On Twitter Metaname says a third of registrants plan to drop the 3rd level domain after a year.

They probably forgot to factor cost of change of email configuration, SEO costs, lost emails from clients who don't update their contact details, cost of coding/changes in systems with auto replies, etc, etc.




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  Reply # 1092979 21-Jul-2014 13:18
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Also the cost of configuring a new domain to a website, which in some cases isn't the easiest, especially if it uses licensed software that is tied to the extension. In many cases people will be better to retain them both and just forward the .nz domain to the .co.nz.

This in a way could mean less .nz domains overall are registered, because previously companies tended to get the .co and .net, and possibly the .org versions of the .nz extension, to protect the domain. But with them moving to another level, it may just mean that they may forget about the third level domains. I have both .co and .net, but may now abandon them after a couple of years and just stick to one.

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  Reply # 1093074 21-Jul-2014 14:53
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So I was thinking about this...

As it stands, the rules imply that: if PersonA owns example.org.nz and PersonB owns example.net.nz  then PersonA can apply to the DNC that example.nz be permanently conflicted (i.e. blocked from registration) for free, if they don't want to go to mediation.  Neither PersonA, PersonB or future PersonC would ever (at least until the rules change) be able to register example.nz.

So.... If PersonA owns example.co.nz and example.net.nz but didn't want example.nz, could they make it look like that they were different people and conflict the 2nd level?  It'd stop the money grab.   (I'm not proposing this)

Edit: Looking at the DNC FAQ it seems it's allowed, you'll automatically conflict with yourself anyway: http://anyname.nz/faq.html#conflicted-names

http://anyname.nz seems like the DNC's resource site for all this.

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  Reply # 1094268 23-Jul-2014 15:24
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Have I misinterpreted the press release, or is the title of this thread wrong?

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  Reply # 1094271 23-Jul-2014 15:26
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bazzer: Have I misinterpreted the press release, or is the title of this thread wrong?


The title is slightly misleading.  The priority 'interest'/conflict period (sunrise period) starts in September.  Open registration etc doesn't start for another 6 months.



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  Reply # 1094274 23-Jul-2014 15:27
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Still "registration" start 1st Septemberr - regardless if it's a sunrise period or not. As per the press release "From that date, people will be able to register shorter, simpler, more representative names immediately before the .nz – as well as the more familiar-looking options like ‘.co.nz’ and ‘.org.nz’."






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  Reply # 1094373 23-Jul-2014 17:10
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Microsoft haven't got .kiwi.nz correct yet even after 2 years for bing and other stuff .. you expect them to get *.nz right? 



See: https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/d000f3883028b8dc863f1df895dec701.jpg



If you don't understand the problem.. I own www.kiwi.nz which bing sees as kiwi.nz which then means I can see a lot of stats etc about *.kiwi.nz domains on bing. (Google have it correct (but it took them quite a while))

(yes I have contacted bing ages ago via the official channels but got nothing back from them)

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LennonNZ: Microsoft haven't got .kiwi.nz correct yet even after 2 years for bing and other stuff .. you expect them to get *.nz right? 



See: https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/d000f3883028b8dc863f1df895dec701.jpg



If you don't understand the problem.. I own www.kiwi.nz which bing sees as kiwi.nz which then means I can see a lot of stats etc about *.kiwi.nz domains on bing. (Google have it correct (but it took them quite a while))

(yes I have contacted bing ages ago via the official channels but got nothing back from them)


Who actually uses bing though to search? You could always contact Microsoft NZ via phone to put you through to the right people.

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  Reply # 1094390 23-Jul-2014 17:59
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Hmm, it is not showing the .co.nz entry for a domain I have, but shows two other variants owned by others.

Hopefully the person with *mysurname*.co.nz decides not to grab the .nz

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  Reply # 1094656 24-Jul-2014 08:56
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freitasm: Still "registration" start 1st Septemberr - regardless if it's a sunrise period or not. As per the press release "From that date, people will be able to register shorter, simpler, more representative names immediately before the .nz – as well as the more familiar-looking options like ‘.co.nz’ and ‘.org.nz’."

Is it not the 30th September, from 1pm?

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