2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2887553 17-Mar-2022 11:56

vexxxboy:

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NSW case numbers jumped significantly from 7-day average of ~12,700 to over 30,000 yesterday.

Trend is up in NSW & ACT, and flat at best in Vic and QLD. Haven't bothered to plot NT, SA or Tas. WA cases still rising (at a slower rate than others plotted).

Overall remarkably similar overall per capita trends in NZ & various AU states (though each at different points on the curve).

'Days' approximately adjusted so that peak in each case is at ~40 -43 days)

Y-scale is cases per day per million population

they seem to think it is the new variety of Omicrom, the B A 2 strain which is why NZ is in an ideal position because our cases now are mainly the B A 2 variety so we wont get the next wave when things drop off.

I wonder also if it reflects those that hide away in their first wave and the return of tertiary education in Australia?

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#2888260 18-Mar-2022 14:33

It seems some people who have had it now think that they can't catch it again, and have now got it over with, and are taking higher risks. But people can catch the different strains, and I have read about people testing positive again after a short period of time. I do wonder how long it will be before people will be calling for an end to mask wearing.

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#2888261 18-Mar-2022 14:35

I already think some people are behaving like it has magically disappeared.

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#2888262 18-Mar-2022 14:39

Even in the US and UK a lot of people are still wearing masks and being very cautious. But the difference is that they have seen all the death caused by it first hand. NZ had been sheltered from that, which I think is a major difference in perception of how bad it can be.

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#2888573 18-Mar-2022 21:51

mattwnz: Even in the US and UK a lot of people are still wearing masks and being very cautious. But the difference is that they have seen all the death caused by it first hand. NZ had been sheltered from that, which I think is a major difference in perception of how bad it can be.

Yes, we really did the right thing by holding on to elimination for as long as we did (as tough as that was). Letting it rip (not really but yeah) for Omicron was the right timing, given the relativeness mildness of that variant has shielded us from experiencing the worst of Covid. The huge downside of not having experienced that and only told about it is that some shrug Covid in general off - possibly to their detriment.

Same goes for having recovered from it. A colleague has had Covid twice and the second time was far worse in terms of symptoms apparently, and they still have pretty bad brain fade and fatigue 2 weeks after 'recovering'.

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#2888581 18-Mar-2022 22:31

antonknee:

mattwnz: Even in the US and UK a lot of people are still wearing masks and being very cautious. But the difference is that they have seen all the death caused by it first hand. NZ had been sheltered from that, which I think is a major difference in perception of how bad it can be.

Yes, we really did the right thing by holding on to elimination for as long as we did (as tough as that was). Letting it rip (not really but yeah) for Omicron was the right timing, given the relativeness mildness of that variant has shielded us from experiencing the worst of Covid. The huge downside of not having experienced that and only told about it is that some shrug Covid in general off - possibly to their detriment.

Same goes for having recovered from it. A colleague has had Covid twice and the second time was far worse in terms of symptoms apparently, and they still have pretty bad brain fade and fatigue 2 weeks after 'recovering'.

he had the Omicron strain 3 months after getting it the first time ?

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2888598 19-Mar-2022 07:36

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explained/300544747/what-would-actually-happen-if-covid19-restrictions-were-stopped

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#2888602 19-Mar-2022 08:12

quickymart:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explained/300544747/what-would-actually-happen-if-covid19-restrictions-were-stopped

instead of just link dumping, do you think you could give a quick summary of the article to go along with the link?

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#2888613 19-Mar-2022 08:43

Sorry - it talks about the impact of removing all restrictions (ie, "just open up the borders") as opposed to leaving some in place, at least until we're over the current peak.

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#2888743 19-Mar-2022 16:59

Idiots abound.

"Lotus Heart vegetarian restaurant has received seven infringement notices totalling $44,000 for failing to adhere to Covid-19 health and safety guidelines. Owner Bhuvah Thurston’s unwillingness to engage with WorkSafe inspectors landed her the fines. Thurston is now asking customers to sign private contracts before entering the store which refer to pledging donations and a ‘covenant of silence’. "

Covid-19: Cafe fined $16,000 for failing to check vaccine passes moving to 'private membership' | Stuff.co.nz

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#2888763 19-Mar-2022 18:00

vexxxboy:
he had the Omicron strain 3 months after getting it the first time ?

They had Delta the first time, but had a far worse experience with Omicron.

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#2888819 19-Mar-2022 18:41

freitasm:

Idiots abound.

"Lotus Heart vegetarian restaurant has received seven infringement notices totalling $44,000 for failing to adhere to Covid-19 health and safety guidelines. Owner Bhuvah Thurston’s unwillingness to engage with WorkSafe inspectors landed her the fines. Thurston is now asking customers to sign private contracts before entering the store which refer to pledging donations and a ‘covenant of silence’. "

Covid-19: Cafe fined $16,000 for failing to check vaccine passes moving to 'private membership' | Stuff.co.nz

Yet another ignorant cafe owner who thinks they know everything about everything. Any Cantabrians visited this Level 1 place lately?

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#2888896 20-Mar-2022 10:19

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/covid-19-calls-for-vaccine-exemption-for-chronic-fatigue-patients-after-dozens-report-debilitating-reaction.html

Does this sound genuine? I honestly don't know.

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#2888962 20-Mar-2022 14:17

quickymart:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/covid-19-calls-for-vaccine-exemption-for-chronic-fatigue-patients-after-dozens-report-debilitating-reaction.html

Does this sound genuine? I honestly don't know.

So, people with an un-diagnosable, possibly psychosomatic condition want an exemption due to reports of undiagnosable, psychosomatic side effects. Sounds legit /sarc

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#2888972 20-Mar-2022 15:06

shk292:
quickymart:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/covid-19-calls-for-vaccine-exemption-for-chronic-fatigue-patients-after-dozens-report-debilitating-reaction.html

Does this sound genuine? I honestly don't know.

So, people with an un-diagnosable, possibly psychosomatic condition want an exemption due to reports of undiagnosable, psychosomatic side effects. Sounds legit /sarc

This post does frustrate me for a number of reasons. But you do realise that long covid and CFS / ME could be the same thing. Both are post viral illnesses and have identical symptoms, some which may last for years and years. They certainly aren't psychosomatic, with many ME / CFS cases having got it after catching virus's like Glandular fever. How many long covid cases in the future are going to be told that the symptoms are all in their head? Catching a post viral illness like this can be life changing and the current support for it in NZ is poor. You don't get ACC. As I have said previously, the one good thing about covid is that it may mean more money and research is put into getting a cure for post viral illnesses like long covid, ME, CFS, because there are going to be a lot more cases in NZ after this. Also it may mean people have a better understanding that post viral illnesses exist and are real.

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