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#318149 20-Dec-2024 18:19
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This video talks about Classic Holden/HSV, but apparently affects trucks/utes quite a bit also. I guess because these are tall, and easier to get access from underneath.

Tip of the day: car thieves reach in wheel well, and cut wire to horn, so that only lights are flashing when they break in.

So install a second horn to your existing horn relay (if possible) to make it harder to steal.

I checked and horn laws are pretty loose in New Zealand. You can't use a bell, siren or whistle, and a vague statement that "It should not make an unnecessary or unreasonably loud, harsh or shrill noise."

How to Wire a Second Horn to an Existing Relay

1) Check the Relay's Current Rating: Look at the specifications of your existing horn relay (often labeled on the relay itself or in your vehicle’s manual).

Ensure it can handle the combined current draw of both horns. For example, if each horn draws 5 amps, the relay should support at least 10 amps, with some margin.

2) Wire the Second Horn: Identify the wire running from the relay to the existing horn (typically the "output" terminal of the relay).

Splice a new wire into this circuit and connect it to the positive terminal of the second horn.

Connect the negative terminal of the second horn to the vehicle's ground (chassis).

3) Test the Setup:

Press the horn button to ensure both horns sound simultaneously.

If the relay trips or does not work, it may not be able to handle the increased load, and you'll need to upgrade the relay.

Classic Holden/HSVs being stolen daily using this cheap eBay tool

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  #3322894 20-Dec-2024 20:15
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You can also lock out the OBD port, speaking from a Holden/HSV perspective.

 

it's already started here with thefts in this method.  

 

OBDSync can stop the port side, but the horn bypass is 100% recommended

 

 





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  #3322935 21-Dec-2024 08:45
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I’m guessing the issue is “no immobiliser”?

 

 

 

anyone without an ignition immobiliser and has a decent cool car should be carrying the 1990’s trusty “steering wheel lock” and to avoid being stolen towed away should also think about other suitable measures like wheel clamps and garage door locks.


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  #3322937 21-Dec-2024 09:00
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Regarding ODB immobiliser deactivators, it looks like each one attack only a small range of target vehicles and always before year 2008. I guess that explains why thieves are targeting specific models.

Given how specific these models are, I don't see a legitimate garage or locksmith buying these, and only useful for roaming specialist thieves.

Ironically I didn’t see mention of old Holden's but maybe Holden used a Bosch system. Or maybe the manufacturer ran out of supply.

Even Amazon sells OBD immobiliser deactivators. The item descriptions and text on device leave out the word "immobiliser" Both markets use the word "deactivator"

So yeah, if I owned one of these early models, I'd install a buy a OBD universal lock (easy and cheap) or double check if horn accessible from outside.
  • Alfa Romeo Stelvio Giulia 2017-2023
  • Atenza
  • Audi A2/A3/A4/A6
  • Axela
  • Mazda 2 Or Similar
  • Mazda 3 Or Similar
  • Porsche Cayenne (Petrol,Old Model)
  • Seat Cordoba
  • Seat Ibiza
  • Skoda Fabia
  • Skoda Octavia
  • Skoda Octavia Ii
  • Skoda Roomstar
  • Skoda Scout
  • Skoda Superb (Up To 2008)
  • Vw Beetle
  • Vw Caddy (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw Eos / Tiguan
  • Vw Golf Iv / Bora (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw Passat 3bg (Up 2004 - Except 2.5 V6)
  • Vw Polo (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw T4 (From 2000 Onwards)



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  #3323060 21-Dec-2024 19:21
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kingdragonfly: Regarding ODB immobiliser deactivators, it looks like each one attack only a small range of target vehicles and always before year 2008. I guess that explains why thieves are targeting specific models.

Given how specific these models are, I don't see a legitimate garage or locksmith buying these, and only useful for roaming specialist thieves.

Ironically I didn’t see mention of old Holden's but maybe Holden used a Bosch system. Or maybe the manufacturer ran out of supply.

Even Amazon sells OBD immobiliser deactivators. The item descriptions and text on device leave out the word "immobiliser" Both markets use the word "deactivator"

So yeah, if I owned one of these early models, I'd install a buy a OBD universal lock (easy and cheap) or double check if horn accessible from outside.

 

  • Alfa Romeo Stelvio Giulia 2017-2023
  • Atenza
  • Audi A2/A3/A4/A6
  • Axela
  • Mazda 2 Or Similar
  • Mazda 3 Or Similar
  • Porsche Cayenne (Petrol,Old Model)
  • Seat Cordoba
  • Seat Ibiza
  • Skoda Fabia
  • Skoda Octavia
  • Skoda Octavia Ii
  • Skoda Roomstar
  • Skoda Scout
  • Skoda Superb (Up To 2008)
  • Vw Beetle
  • Vw Caddy (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw Eos / Tiguan
  • Vw Golf Iv / Bora (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw Passat 3bg (Up 2004 - Except 2.5 V6)
  • Vw Polo (From 2000 Onwards)
  • Vw T4 (From 2000 Onwards)

 

I'm speaking specifically for Holden/HSV VE to VF. We can lock out the OBD in the BCM amongst other things

 

Prior models have physical intervention methods. 

 

The horn wiring location for Holden is a bit of poor planning situation

 

Agree with you on the universal lock on other models.  The list is a bit concerning





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