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#238024 29-Jun-2018 12:33
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New research indicates that social conservatism can help explain the negative correlation between religiosity and cognitive abilities.

 

There exists a cluster of psychological traits and attitudes that have been described as the “conservative syndrome.” The term isn’t meant to describe conservatism as a disease. Rather, “syndrome” denotes that a number of traits and dispositions associated with conservatism are correlated with each other.

 

The new study, published in Personality and Individual Differences, suggests that the “conservative syndrome” is associated with lower intelligence, and religiosity is only a part of it.

 

“It should understand that social conservatives, including very religious people, tend to be more restricted in their views of the world,” Stankov told PsyPost. “Because of their lower IQ they are more close-minded and afraid of change. They also tend to be more nasty towards those who do not belong to their own group.”

 

Oh no - it gets worse:

 

 A defining trend in human intelligence tests that saw people steadily obtaining higher IQ scores through the 20th century has abruptly ended, a new study shows.
The Flynn effect – named after the work of Kiwi intelligence researcher James Flynn – observed rapid rises in intelligence quotient at a rate of about 3 IQ points per decade in the 20th century, but new research suggests these heady boom days are long gone.
An analysis of some 730,000 IQ test results by researchers from the Ragnar Frisch Centre for Economic Research in Norway reveals the Flynn effect hit its peak for people born during the mid-1970s, and has significantly declined ever since.
What the results show is that a turning point for the Flynn effect occurred for the post-1975 birth cohorts, equivalent to 7 fewer IQ score points per generation.


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  #2046021 29-Jun-2018 13:14
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I am certainly not conservative by any definition of the term, but I can think of at least a couple of obviously high IQ individuals here who are. There are also a fair number of other well-known conservatives, like William F. Buckley Jr., who clearly did not lack in the IQ department. I find this a specious association at best. People are certainly getting dumber, but that has more to do with textspeak, functional illiteracy and YouTube videos than with conservative syndrome.

 

 

 

 





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  #2046025 29-Jun-2018 13:29
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And liberalism is a mental disorder.... tongue-out


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  #2046027 29-Jun-2018 13:41
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Does this mean that people other than me think religion is a mental illness now? ;-P





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  #2046028 29-Jun-2018 13:44
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Wiggum:

 

And liberalism is a mental disorder.... tongue-out

 

 

Not sure what that adds to the discussion.

 

 





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  #2046029 29-Jun-2018 13:47
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Lias:

 

Does this mean that people other than me think religion is a mental illness now? ;-P

 

 

I don't believe the two are inclusive of each other, ie religious and conservative. Conservative atheists exist too.


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  #2046030 29-Jun-2018 13:47
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Rikkitic:

 

I am certainly not conservative by any definition of the term, but I can think of at least a couple of obviously high IQ individuals here who are. There are also a fair number of other well-known conservatives, like William F. Buckley Jr., who clearly did not lack in the IQ department. I find this a specious association at best. People are certainly getting dumber, but that has more to do with textspeak, functional illiteracy and YouTube videos than with conservative syndrome.

 

 

One (or even three) swallows does not a summer make. Of course there will be exceptions.

 

As for the second part, my best guess would be that as the observed decline in measured IQ (from the mid '70s) correlates with the wide adoption of the cheap electronic calculator, and IQ tests rely on quick mental arithmetic skills for high scores (eg identifying increasingly complex missing numbers in series etc), then maybe the loss of mental arithmetic skills make it harder to visualise missing numbers, and use of the same old "IQ test" is the problem - not a decline in "intelligence" - whatever that means.

 

 


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  #2046032 29-Jun-2018 13:50
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Lias:

 

Does this mean that people other than me think religion is a mental illness now? ;-P

 

 

I can only offer an anecdote - in the average secure psych ward there are more people who insist they're Jesus - than there are people who think they're Elvis.


 
 
 

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  #2046033 29-Jun-2018 13:52
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Is it a decline in IQ since the mid 70s, or a decline in the rate of increase? I.e. are people getting dumber, or are they just getting smarter at a slower rate?


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  #2046034 29-Jun-2018 13:56
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Paul1977:

 

Is it a decline in IQ since the mid 70s, or a decline in the rate of increase? I.e. are people getting dumber, or are they just getting smarter at a slower rate?

 

 

It's a decline in measured average IQ - the trend for increase is claimed to have reversed - not just slowed down or stalled.

 

Firstly though you'd need to accept that an IQ test is a valid objective measure of human intelligence - and the scores haven't been distorted by something else going on.


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  #2046035 29-Jun-2018 13:58
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Lias:

 

Does this mean that people other than me think religion is a mental illness now? ;-P

 

 

There are very different kinds of believers. The fundamentalist bible-thumpers people think of when they picture (usually) American fanatics are not the same as those who see faith in a much broader and more considered context. I have known some very cultured and thoroughly sane individuals who were also equally devout. I am a non-believer myself and I have little patience for the bright-eyed proselytising types, but genuine religious belief deserves respect. I don't agree with it but calling it mental illness is way too simplistic.

 

 

 

 





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  #2046036 29-Jun-2018 14:00
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Wiggum:

 

Lias:

 

Does this mean that people other than me think religion is a mental illness now? ;-P

 

 

I don't believe the two are inclusive of each other, ie religious and conservative. Conservative atheists exist too.

 

 

Christians should all be progressive socialists.  Jesus had his target audience well identified - an expert in marketing.


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  #2046037 29-Jun-2018 14:03
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Fred99:

 

Paul1977:

 

Is it a decline in IQ since the mid 70s, or a decline in the rate of increase? I.e. are people getting dumber, or are they just getting smarter at a slower rate?

 

 

It's a decline in measured average IQ - the trend for increase is claimed to have reversed - not just slowed down or stalled.

 

Firstly though you'd need to accept that an IQ test is a valid objective measure of human intelligence - and the scores haven't been distorted by something else going on.

 

 

Someone, it may have even been someone who helped develop modern IQ tests, once defined IQ as being whatever it is that IQ tests measure. 

 

 





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  #2046038 29-Jun-2018 14:03
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Fred99:

 

Paul1977:

 

Is it a decline in IQ since the mid 70s, or a decline in the rate of increase? I.e. are people getting dumber, or are they just getting smarter at a slower rate?

 

 

It's a decline in measured average IQ - the trend for increase is claimed to have reversed - not just slowed down or stalled.

 

Firstly though you'd need to accept that an IQ test is a valid objective measure of human intelligence - and the scores haven't been distorted by something else going on.

 

 

Ha, take that millennials!


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  #2046041 29-Jun-2018 14:14
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Rikkitic:

 

Someone, it may have even been someone who helped develop modern IQ tests, once defined IQ as being whatever it is that IQ tests measure. 

 

 

I have a niece who was brain damaged at birth, the part of her brain destroyed appears to have been the "math co-processor".  She has extremely low numeracy skills, can verbally count to 10 but simple addition / subtraction is impossible - can't get the right change from a shop (and has been taken advantage of by high IQ individuals).  This extends to visual skills - the way we'd instantly recognise a shape like a triangle or square - she would try to count the sides and remember.  OTOH she can read and write, is on facebook, enjoys life, and is a nice person. Whatever her IQ is, it's completely unimportant.


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  #2046043 29-Jun-2018 14:20
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Dumb computer algorithms - serving me up this ad on this page after I've more or less stated I don't care much for the concept of "IQ testing":

 


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