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#312568 28-Apr-2024 16:48

I've recently switched to Quic and was wondering whether anyone else in Dunedin could share their latency to Christchurch?

I was previously with 2degrees and getting about 7 ms to their Christchurch Speedtest server and now with Quic am getting about 12 ms to the Vetta Christchurch server.

Ultimately 5 ms is pretty meaningless but just wanted to check that all is functioning as expected.

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#3223741 28-Apr-2024 17:09

Dunedinite Quic user here. Same boat. Quic uses Chorus to backhaul us up to their Christchurch BNG. There's something funky in the path, that unfortunately is outside of Quic's control. Annoying..

The reason it's different for 2degrees, is they have a Dunedin BNG.

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#3223743 28-Apr-2024 17:22

Thank you for that explanation - good to know that everything is as expected. Must be a few extra loop-the-loops in there somewhere.

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#3223745 28-Apr-2024 17:26

Yep, not sure what Chorus are doing. Occasionally when they perform maintenance in the early hours of the morning, the latency drops to about 6ms. Seems it takes a more optimal path when it's under maintenance, lol.

Quic has advised that one day they will look at a Dunedin BNG. Once that's done, Quic will have more direct control over latency to Christchurch. Currently they're implementing a Wellington one, which is obviously more of a priority for them right now.

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#3223746 28-Apr-2024 17:39

That is bizarre, would be interesting to know Chorus’ decision-making there. Glad Quic have plans for Dunedin in the road map, at least.

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#3223748 28-Apr-2024 17:46

Given the growth they've seen recently, I'm hoping it's not too far off! 😊

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#3223753 28-Apr-2024 18:39

This looks like a similar "issue" to one I reported a couple of years ago:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=190&topicid=299185

I suspect the same sort of thing's happening, with things taking a scenic route through Chorus' network.

I'm currently with Voyager but I have a Quic connection scheduled to go live in a few days, so I'll see whether it does the same thing.

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#3223834 28-Apr-2024 22:47

Thanks Behodar, that's very interesting to read about - sounds like it could definitely be a similar scenario. I wonder where Chorus is detouring Dunedin traffic for aggregation on the way up north, or whether the TES aggregation inherently adds latency somehow.

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#3223836 28-Apr-2024 23:38

Must be that new west coast path via Haast Pass and probably down again via Lewis Pass.

https://company.chorus.co.nz/media/releases/enhanced-connectivity-and-increased-resilience-west-coast

2degrees likely still use their FX Networks fibre?

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#3224961 1-May-2024 12:10

Behodar:

This looks like a similar "issue" to one I reported a couple of years ago:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=190&topicid=299185

I suspect the same sort of thing's happening, with things taking a scenic route through Chorus' network.

I'm currently with Voyager but I have a Quic connection scheduled to go live in a few days, so I'll see whether it does the same thing.

And the answer is... pings have dropped by around 8 ms :)

PING 114.23.3.255 (114.23.3.255): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 114.23.3.255: icmp_seq=0 ttl=59 time=6.526 ms
64 bytes from 114.23.3.255: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=6.388 ms
64 bytes from 114.23.3.255: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=6.199 ms
64 bytes from 114.23.3.255: icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=6.075 ms

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#3225018 1-May-2024 13:46

Yup same thing here in rural Oamaru.

Tracing route to speedtest-ookla-chc.vetta.online [202.179.141.236]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 2 ms unifi [192.168.11.1]
2 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms bng1-chc2.vetta.net [103.243.102.40]
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms xe1-2600-218.pe2-chc4.vetta.net [103.243.102.114]
4 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms xe1-2600-216.pe2-chc2.vetta.net [103.243.102.112]
5 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms br1-havm-chc.vetta.net [103.139.184.175]
6 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 202.179.141.236

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#3225128 1-May-2024 16:38

CYaBro:

Yup same thing here in rural Oamaru.

Somehow an even longer first hop than from Dunedin!

Behodar:

And the answer is... pings have dropped by around 8 ms :)

Nice to see you had a good result from the switch. In my case it turns out things are working as designed and a Quic PoP in Dunedin will be necessary for any improvements.

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#3225161 1-May-2024 18:12

Ouch! That's terrible :(

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#3225209 1-May-2024 20:35

@BMarquis is this something you can help with? The paths for tail extensions in Dunedin (and Oamaru) are terrible 😔 Looks like it's taking a rather massive detour

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#3225249 1-May-2024 21:45

No, not something I can help with.
I think the previously linked Voyager thread explains it.

Kind of abrupt answer sorry. Quic can contact me, or their Chorus service delivery/account management folks if they want to discuss it.

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#3225486 2-May-2024 12:25

Thanks, it was worth a shot. I think Quic have talked to Chorus already, but I'm not sure that they have the power to change anything there. A bit disappointing.

14ms from Oamaru to Christchurch is a joke.

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