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# 20808 6-Apr-2008 15:00
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I have had a bit of a tidy up with my wiring this afternoon. After I had fusion installed I moved my router/modem etc to the basement and used a patch panel to distribute the adsl/phone service around the house using cat5e.

The area where my router was placed wasn't near the old jackpoint so I had a couple of extension cables set up.

This afternoon I have moved the telecom cable coming into my house and now have it set up to feed my modem directly. I cut the plug off the end of a modem cable so I could conect the two telecom wires directly to my modem. In fact I haven't even put the cables in any connectors or anything at the moment I just twisted them together using my fingers and left them. (I wil tidy them up later).

My adsl speed using used to average about 2400kbps. It is now averaging around 4000kbps. Upload is about the same, 550kbps.

Cutting out all of the other plugs/extension cables etc seems to have increased my adsl speed by about a third!

If you have fusion and have no use for telecom jackpoints etc I would recommend this as a possible option for getting the most out of your connection.

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  # 121551 6-Apr-2008 16:52
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Yes, chopping out all those jack-points often helps. The way I set these up is a new cable from the demarc to the location of your router. The rest of the phone wiring gets chopped off from the outside world. You can then plug in your VFX into an existing (now not live) jack-point and liven them all up again.

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  # 121557 6-Apr-2008 17:08
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What you have done is no different in the case where your phone wiring remains but you install a central splitter at the demarc and install a direct line from the input to your modem. Essentially the filter isolates all the house wiring, removing all the star stubs and rinkles that cause reflections and destroy various parts of the spectrum.

So a lesson, if you want the best out or your DSL circuit, install a central filter if you still use your POTs service, having micro filters dotted around the house does not remove all the stubs that cause DSL signal reflections that stuff you DSL performance.

Obviously if you have gone naked, you dont need the filter but must remove all house wiring and make a direct line from demarc to modem.



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  # 121608 6-Apr-2008 19:48
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marmel: I just twisted them together using my fingers and left them. (I wil tidy them up later).

Go to Dick Smith and get the proper connectors.  It is a round thing filled with grease.  You put two wires in it and squash the thing together with pliers or wack it with a hammer.  It cuts through the insulation to make the connection and the grease then covers it to keep out moisture.  That is the correct way of joining wires, anything else will end up with moisture inside the wire and corrosion sets in.  If/when your connection fails and Telecom comes out to repair it, they will charge you because it is your fault.  I will see if I can find the DSE part number and post another reply.

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  # 121613 6-Apr-2008 20:03
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Scotch lok type gel crimps are not recommend for stranded cable. When transposing from stranded to solid as you have here a simple solution is to wist and soldier the two and then insert each leg into a screw terminal block not to screw up tightly but to simply retain and ensure isolation, or use heat shrink or similar insulation of each leg.

No IDC termials such as 110, Krone, or Scotch Lok is designed to work with stranded cables which cannot maintain a constant diameter once inserted between the IDC blades.


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  # 121621 6-Apr-2008 20:52
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Thanks for the advice guys.

I am going to solder and secure with tape. The wire sits inside a cupboard so it should remain dry anyway.

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  # 122060 8-Apr-2008 11:47
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Hi guys,

Slightly off topic but similar question. Sorry if I'm hijacking your thread.

I have five jackpoints in my house and are now just using one in the office for fusion (on Linksys WAG54GP2v2).

Its a bit of a bugger not being able to use the other jacks.

I think my jack in the office is the 2nd jackpoint in the loop around the house.

If I wanted to pull out the remaining jacks from the loop and connect them to the WAG54GP2v2 so they become live again, how many jacks can I safely run off the linksys router? 

I'd probably only want to run two or 3, (1 with cordless, maybe another 2 phones)

Is it ok to do this?  Don't want to screw with the wiring too much as we are in a rental (new house first tennants, running Cat5)

One other thing, On xnet they say its costs $150 to rewire to run a sky decoder on fusion.  Does anyone know what they actually do?  Are they just doing what I'm suggesting and rewiring to get the jackpoint live from the router? or are there extra things like running a different codec to get it to work.

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  # 122121 8-Apr-2008 14:17
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Technically speaking you can plug only one phone into one port using the length of cable supplied with a normal phone.  Practically speaking you can go much further and you can wire up your whole house.  Wosrt case the sound quality gets degraded due to too much load.  But there is also a risk of damaging the ATA due to lightning induced into the long wires (unlikely, but can happen especially in a dryer climate).  Do not take the wire outside your home to another dwelling, as the risk of lightning induced spikes increase significantly.

The $150 wiring charge is to simply wire a jackpoint between your Sky box and the ATA.

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