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#944302 2-Dec-2013 18:52

timmmay: When you have 2x10A outlets do they run two 10A cables, or one cable to both with the assumption that you'll never draw 10A from the sockets? Watching qualified electricians doing things at home it looked to me like one cable ran around a whole room, so you shouldn't draw more than 10A at a time per room or circuit. I could be wrong, I'm not an expert.

Having 10A socket outlets doesn't mean the circuit is rated for 10A. It's usually 16A or more often 20A, so it can supply multiple outlets. The circuit rating is indicated on the breaker in the distribution board.

Most sparkies would wire a 15A socket outlet through a dedicated circuit, but it might be able to share a 20A circuit if there's not much else on it.

In any case you need a sparky to advise.

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#947046 7-Dec-2013 13:01

Well! my hot water thingy arrived I plugged it in (came with a ridiculously short cable ) Plug says 13a Fusee inside. and so far the power board hasn't tripped and it is all working fine..... Touch Wood :) I have ran it 3 times in succession and all good.

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#947050 7-Dec-2013 13:08

what does it claim to be rated at? It should have a watt and/or amp rating on it somewhere.

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#947610 8-Dec-2013 19:33

I boil my jug a million times a day too - always for 1 mug.
But I fill it in the morning, and don't top it up again until it's almost out....can't say I have an issue with the power bill at all.

Once it's not very full it boils quick so speed isn't an issue either.

You could have just bought one of those zips if you really need instant boiling water....

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#948539 10-Dec-2013 10:40

andrewNZ: what does it claim to be rated at? It should have a watt and/or amp rating on it somewhere.

Has 3000w on the base 240v

Actually I'm not that impressed I thought that it would be always availble hot water instead you still have to wait for the water to bil that takes about 40secs so that means that I am wasting over 4 hours a year waiting for the kettle to boil!

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#948546 10-Dec-2013 10:49

gnfb:
andrewNZ: what does it claim to be rated at? It should have a watt and/or amp rating on it somewhere.

Has 3000w on the base 240v

Actually I'm not that impressed I thought that it would be always availble hot water instead you still have to wait for the water to bil that takes about 40secs so that means that I am wasting over 4 hours a year waiting for the kettle to boil!

And 40secs means you stand there & wait for it - with a standard kettle it takes long enough that you can wander off and do something else productive in the meantime = more efficient.

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#948564 10-Dec-2013 11:02

Seems like you need one of these instead http://www.zenithheaters.co.nz/zenith-hydrotap They have a small tank that is always heated. But would be more difficult to install since it is permanently plumbed in. It would probably use more power overall than a kettle but at least no waiting for hot water.

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#948580 10-Dec-2013 11:29

Or plonk one of these bad boys on the Bench

http://www.breville.co.nz/6-litre-urn.html

Although we are now "solving" the OP's problem of "wanting to lower the cost of boiling a jug numerous times during the day" with solutions that will definitely increase his power bill :)

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#948582 10-Dec-2013 11:31

Aredwood: Seems like you need one of these instead http://www.zenithheaters.co.nz/zenith-hydrotap They have a small tank that is always heated. But would be more difficult to install since it is permanently plumbed in. It would probably use more power overall than a kettle but at least no waiting for hot water.

They look interesting. Running cost is 25c/day if it's going for 14 hours, not too bad, plus relatively low costs for water heating or cooling. Might be a nicer option than the huge jug of cold water in the fridge, and the kettle being boiled ten times a day by my English partner.

They cost $4700 though, plus installation.

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#948656 10-Dec-2013 12:59

timmmay:
Aredwood: Seems like you need one of these instead http://www.zenithheaters.co.nz/zenith-hydrotap They have a small tank that is always heated. But would be more difficult to install since it is permanently plumbed in. It would probably use more power overall than a kettle but at least no waiting for hot water.

They look interesting. Running cost is 25c/day if it's going for 14 hours, not too bad, plus relatively low costs for water heating or cooling. Might be a nicer option than the huge jug of cold water in the fridge, and the kettle being boiled ten times a day by my English partner.

They cost $4700 though, plus installation.

It may be possible to get a second hand one.

I've used a number of different models of this tap and the newer ones have a "safety" feature where you have to operate the tap and press a button to get hot water, I find this makes them a pain to use so if you can find an older one - grab it.

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#948915 10-Dec-2013 19:38

Aredwood: Seems like you need one of these instead http://www.zenithheaters.co.nz/zenith-hydrotap They have a small tank that is always heated. But would be more difficult to install since it is permanently plumbed in. It would probably use more power overall than a kettle but at least no waiting for hot water.

We have something similar (possibly and older model?) at work. Pretty good - it won't do what the OP wants as far as saving money is concerned, but they are instant. Plus, having integrated filtration, chilled water as well, and being plumbed in so you never have to worry about filling a tank, is all nice.

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#949203 11-Dec-2013 10:29

I have to say I am impressed that this is such a fascinating topic for you all! and so much relevant information. I better not tell any of you what Waffle maker I recently bought or we will be here all day! Thanks again

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#949205 11-Dec-2013 10:30

BlueShift:
gnfb:
andrewNZ: what does it claim to be rated at? It should have a watt and/or amp rating on it somewhere.

Has 3000w on the base 240v

Actually I'm not that impressed I thought that it would be always availble hot water instead you still have to wait for the water to bil that takes about 40secs so that means that I am wasting over 4 hours a year waiting for the kettle to boil!

And 40secs means you stand there & wait for it - with a standard kettle it takes long enough that you can wander off and do something else productive in the meantime = more efficient.

Well it actually dispenses a set amount of water when heated into the cup then stops

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