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#15594 30-Aug-2007 15:31
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timestyles: This is off topic but the whole 'model' for getting broadband to a consumers household is basically flawed.  There are about 100 houses on my block.  If cable were passed around my block through back yards, along fences etc or using optical to a central point or a mesh-type Wi-Fi on power polls, data could be distributed less expensively.  Fibre optic cable would connect the central point to the internet as a whole.

Calculating with these charges and having a 5 year return on investment that means that basic broadband service is connected to $1500 worth of equipment or installation costs.  That value excludes standard phone service.



Some people don't like Downer engineering employees poking round in their back yard when problems occur with someone else's internet connection, it's far easier to keep cables on public land. Wireless is used in some areas where the density of users makes it economic to compete with telecom's copper, and generally tends to increases latency. The reason we use the (expensive, less than ideal) wiring we do is because it's there, it works, and it's far cheaper to use what's already there.

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  #84477 30-Aug-2007 16:52
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Good point from the OP, and great answer from Brendan - that dirty ol' copper in the ground sure is attractively easy and cheap for a consumer + telco to get connected up.









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  #84575 30-Aug-2007 23:36
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Yeah I agree with the sentiment, I like the idea of grass roots networking. Maybe there is enough wireless gear in the right hands to start building half decent wireless meshes in some of the major centres? Maybe it's just a matter of getting coordinated and doing some promotion. Anyone know of any meshes in Auckland?  Hey maybe councils could standardise on and subsidise a wireless access point. But maybe the the general public just isn't tech savy / interested enough [yet]?






 

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  #84587 31-Aug-2007 01:22
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Problem is its too much effort for Jo Blogs, especially when he needs to get his email and its blowing a gale outside and his directional just got tilted 30 degrees downwind.

Then there is the security, management, network design and administration - does not just happen and work by itself. You actually need clueful people when building a significant sized network.

BTW people have been doing this for awhile - check www.nzwireless.org everyone got the lazies though.



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  #84592 31-Aug-2007 04:42
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  Wireless is used in some areas where the density of users makes it economic to compete with telecom's copper, and generally tends to increases latency. 


I have always wondered why the latency for wireless (such as Woosh) as bad.  If you want a latency of 5mS, and you've got a 100MHz processor that's 500,000 CPU cycles to decrypt and manage the data.

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  #84685 31-Aug-2007 16:10
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Uhh what, somebody start Friday drinks early?

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