Can you elaborate on your requirements a bit more? 

MichaelNZ:

 

Who are the serious xDSL providers who can handle customer BGP routes?

 

Maybe you need to go down the path of looking at using a back-haul provider instead of a RSP, im picking its related to this thread? https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=248381

I would suggest https://devoli.com/contact give them a call and talk to their engineers they may be able to help.

sparkz25:

 

Maybe you need to go down the path of looking at using a back-haul provider instead of a RSP, im picking its related to this thread? https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=248381

 

I would suggest https://devoli.com/contact give them a call and talk to their engineers they may be able to help.

 

They invarably want to sell far more data than we need.

atomeara:

 

Can you elaborate on your requirements a bit more? 

 

Deliver bandwidth via VDSL and accept our route advertisments.

https://www.xtreme.net.nz/connections/vdsl.php

dfnt:

 

https://www.xtreme.net.nz/connections/vdsl.php

 

Thanks for that.

It's a mystery to me how a $250 / monthly VDSL connection can be 2.5x better than one costing $85 - $95 per month*, but it looks like they may be capable so I will give them a call.

*Probably much in the same category as asking $450 monthly for a /24 which is available from APNIC for AU$1,050 per year.

MichaelNZ:

 

It's a mystery to me how a $250 / monthly VDSL connection can be 2.5x better than one costing $85 - $95 per month*, but it looks like they may be capable so I will give them a call.

 

It's a mystery to me how those looking for something business grade don't expect to pay extra for the support and bandwidth they get over a standard residential/small business connection. 

hio77:

 

MichaelNZ:

 

It's a mystery to me how a $250 / monthly VDSL connection can be 2.5x better than one costing $85 - $95 per month*, but it looks like they may be capable so I will give them a call.

 

 

It's a mystery to me how those looking for something business grade don't expect to pay extra for the support and bandwidth they get over a standard residential/small business connection. 

 

There are well regarded ISP's like Iconz and InspireNet who charge sub-$100 per month. I have had VDSL connections with both of them and they always seemed to work fine speed wise.

On the other hand, I also had a VDSL connection with well known "business" ISP who charged $0.50 per Gb. They started off good but the connection got slower and slower to the point I dropped them.

I have concluded once the el-cheapo ISP's are crossed off the list there isn't much difference.

MichaelNZ:

hio77:

MichaelNZ:

It's a mystery to me how a $250 / monthly VDSL connection can be 2.5x better than one costing $85 - $95 per month*, but it looks like they may be capable so I will give them a call.

It's a mystery to me how those looking for something business grade don't expect to pay extra for the support and bandwidth they get over a standard residential/small business connection. 

There are well regarded ISP's like Iconz and InspireNet who charge sub-$100 per month. I have had VDSL connections with both of them and they always seemed to work fine speed wise.

On the other hand, I also had a VDSL connection with well known "business" ISP who charged $0.50 per Gb. They started off good but the connection got slower and slower to the point I dropped them.

I have concluded once the el-cheapo ISP's are crossed off the list there isn't much difference.

BarTender:

 

You know the difference between retail and business grade broadband.

All the extra configuration you desire, hence the price difference.

I will see what various companies come up with and take it from there.

The ones who want the business will present a fair and reasoned proposal.

It will still cost a bit more than a standard residential plan though.

quickymart:

 

It will still cost a bit more than a standard residential plan though.

 

That is fine, however, some ISP's use business accounts as a way to cross-subsidise their residential services. It's the only explanation I can think of for the difference in price.

Which is kind of odd because as a business user -

1. I don't bitch and moan and then leave them because someone else decided to lower the bar even further price wise. In this vein I don't play them off against bottom of the barrel ISP's either.

2. I don't ask for free equipment. In actual fact, I don't want it.

3. I'm easy to support

4. My data usage is fair to them

5. I don't do dumb stuff like have my login credentials compromised and get their MX RBL'ed.

And to be clear I am talking in general here. Obviously, in this neck of the woods (geekzone) I expect I am among like minded people.

There is certainly value in a true business plan with an SLA attached.

But I'm with @MichaelNZ on this example, $250 for a VDSL circuit?! Realistically, you're only going to be moving 40-50Mbps. Can you even buy the Chorus SLA on a DSL? I know you can when it's HSNS, but that product certainly isn't HSNS.

And once this is set up, the ISP will need to do very little to continue supporting it. So I think there is a lot of meat on that price to give margin for other products they might not do so well on. Perhaps they are just pricing it inline with a Bitstream 3 connection? Which, of course, a VDSL circuit is nowhere near at all.

MichaelNZ:

 

That is fine, however, some ISP's use business accounts as a way to cross-subsidise their residential services. It's the only explanation I can think of for the difference in price.

 

Which is kind of odd because as a business user -

 

1. I don't bitch and moan and then leave them because someone else decided to lower the bar even further price wise. In this vein I don't play them off against bottom of the barrel ISP's either.

 

2. I don't ask for free equipment. In actual fact, I don't want it.

 

3. I'm easy to support

 

4. My data usage is fair to them

 

5. I don't do dumb stuff like have my login credentials compromised and get their MX RBL'ed.

 

And to be clear I am talking in general here. Obviously, in this neck of the woods (geekzone) I expect I am among like minded people.