Landline via ONT

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#295732 19-Apr-2022 12:10

I have a customer who has just switched to UFB from a WISP setup. Previously he was using a Grandstream ATA VOIP adapter plugged into the phone lines in the house and was able to use all his phones no problem. Since switching to UFB the landline is via the ONT, not a biggie. Plugged that all up and its working fine (much better than before!!). Pretty much ditched his entire previous setup incl the grandstream.

This is working fine with his powered hand sets - wireless ones with powered base stations but he has an old (very old!) unpowered Telecom phone Id guess is at least 20 years old. He really wants to keep using that but Im guessing the ONT doesnt out out enough power to run it? Is there any options short of a new phone he can opt for? He wants to be able to use it when theres power cuts but as I explained to him without a UPS his UFB will be down anyway.

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#2903776 19-Apr-2022 12:18

Does it not work at all, or does it just not ring?

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#2903810 19-Apr-2022 13:47

I would check out: https://www.bigbuttons.co.nz/landline-phones.html (YMMV but they look a fairly legit site)

Also this thread is good: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=42&topicid=273145

Also worth checking out:

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/uniden-fp1220-corded-phone-with-backlit-lcd-and-keypad/N116789.html

and

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/uniden-sse451-sight-and-sound-enhanced-twin-cordless-phone-system/N160233.html

My 85 year old Mother in Law has the above, and she also purchased an additional station so she has 3 around her place so she never needs to travel very far to get a phone and is very happy with it.

Have thought about getting her a mini UPS to run the ONT and base station, but she is SLOWLY coming around to using her mobile phone so that is the emergency backup option.

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#2903895 19-Apr-2022 14:36

Doesn’t work or doesn’t ring? if it works but doesn’t ring this will be either the REN is drawing yoo much power (ONT pumps out circa 3REN)

you need to add uo the REN from the cordless phone and his old phone and check it doesn’t exceed 3 the REN is found on the tele permit sticker

The other reason it may not ring is it requires the 3rd ring wire to function

To resolve this you need a ringing adapter (which his old setup he must have if it was working)

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#2903908 19-Apr-2022 14:50

Sorry should have said, doesnt work at all. No dialtone, nothing. I think he'll just have to invest in a new phone personally.

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#2903909 19-Apr-2022 14:52

Oh I have suggested a UPS for the UFB/Whatever he has plugged in down near the ONT as they also have zero mobile coverage. Now I at least have them on voice over wifi and that seems to be working.

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#2904053 19-Apr-2022 18:56

askelon:

Sorry should have said, doesnt work at all. No dialtone, nothing. I think he'll just have to invest in a new phone personally.

are you using an RJ11 to RJ11 to plug the phone into the ONT?

if so this also wont work because those older phones use pins 2,3,5 on both the BT and RJ11 connections, on the more modern 2 wire phones they use 2 and 5 on a BT connection and pins 3 and 4 on an RJ11 connection

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#2904131 19-Apr-2022 21:33

askelon:

Oh I have suggested a UPS for the UFB/Whatever he has plugged in down near the ONT as they also have zero mobile coverage. Now I at least have them on voice over wifi and that seems to be working.

No mobile coverage and no longer on copper = 111 Contact Code comes into play, EVERYONE must be able to contact 111 in the event of a power outage, you will be able to score a UPS from your RSP

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