Home phone jackpoints & UFB

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gmball

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#115608 1-Apr-2013 18:20

Looking for some advice,

I am fairly certainly that our home wiring is likely Cat5 (theres 8 pins looking inside the phone socket). Each socket only accepts the small phone plug, or a plug from a Cat5 network cable.

Currently in the process of connecting to UFB also.

Had a thought, as UFB will be delivered to the chorus ONT and Fritzbox router (SNAP.net.nz), we will no longer be using our phone sockets for traditional phone service... Would it be possible to run a network cable from the back of the Fritzbox to a phone/network wall socket, would this then enable our 'phone' sockets to work as network sockets?

Reason being that our current ADSL master splitter is located at one end of the house (likely the same location as the fibre ONT as its closest to the street), and our desktop PC is at the other. We currently connect via Wifi.
As we wont be using the phone sockets for phone, we could then hardwire our PC via a network cable to make the connection more stable than wifi?

I might be completely on the wrong track here, but just thinking about our future setup...

Thanks for any advice.

sbiddle

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#790262 1-Apr-2013 18:25

ONT is typically located next to the TV in a "standard" install, or at a location of your choice if you want it somewhere specifically where it can easily be installed.

You can use these existing sockets for phone or data assuming they're all running back to a central location, but without knowing where this location is in your house would dictate how easy this is.

If you have a structured cabling solution in your house the most logical place to locate the ONT would be where this cabling terminates.

chevrolux

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#790263 1-Apr-2013 18:27

Seeing as you are getting a Fritzbox I would suggest just getting some DECT handsets (that are GAP compliant) and connecting them directly to the Fritz. No need to bother with wiring the ATA back in to your jacks and, as you say, free's up the outlets to be used for data instead.

I would grab Siemens handsets from Nicegear.

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#790265 1-Apr-2013 18:34

Can you determine if your wiring is star wired or daisy chained?

Whatifthespacekeyhadneverbeeninvented?

gmball

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#790267 1-Apr-2013 18:51

House is around 10 years old in Dannemora Botany. No central location or switchboard so would suggest that the wiring is daisy chained.

Currently our ADSL master splitter is located on the opposite side of the house to where the Telecom ETP comes in from the street. I gather that Chorus will want to install the Fibre ONT closest to the current entry from the street rather than running Fibre across the width of the house.

If thats the case and they want to install it closest to where the current Telecom ETP is located, there's a phone socket there which I am guessing will no longer be required. Hence the thought of running a Cat5 cable from the back of the Fritz to the phone jackpoint and making all jackpoints live for data?

Yes, I am also planning on picking up some DECT handsets as our current cordless is also ready for replacement.

Thanks again for the info you have each provided.

Spyware

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#790268 1-Apr-2013 19:01

You can have the thought but it doesn't work like that at all, i.e, data cabling from each point needs to run to a central location and be connected to an Ethernet switch port.

Spark Max Fibre using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+, CRS125-24G-1S, Unifi UAP, U6-Pro, UAP-AC-M-Pro, Apple TV 4K (2022), Apple TV 4K (2017), iPad Air 1st gen, iPad Air 4th gen, iPhone 13, SkyNZ3151 (the white box). If it doesn't move then it's data cabled.

gmball

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#790271 1-Apr-2013 19:15

Spyware: You can have the thought but it doesn't work like that at all, i.e, data cabling from each point needs to run to a central location and be connected to an Ethernet switch port.

Ok, thanks.

I'm certainly no expert hence why I'm asking here. I guess the phone sockets can just be unused, there in the instance that someone might want to connect back up to the traditional phone copper network.

Cheers

InstallerUFB

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#790273 1-Apr-2013 19:34

gmball: House is around 10 years old in Dannemora Botany. No central location or switchboard so would suggest that the wiring is daisy chained.

I would hope not -I would think that the person who cabled your house put in cableing for star wireing judging from the age - if it is daisy chained then it can only be used for phone wireing and never anything else (apart from a rewire)

If they have put RJ45 jacks and not BT jacks on the end of the cabling then I would suspect there is an interconnection point for the cableing somewhere around the garage (may even be in the ceiling space)

Currently our ADSL master splitter is located on the opposite side of the house to where the Telecom ETP comes in from the street. I gather that Chorus will want to install the Fibre ONT closest to the current entry from the street rather than running Fibre across the width of the house.

If thats the case and they want to install it closest to where the current Telecom ETP is located, there's a phone socket there which I am guessing will no longer be required. Hence the thought of running a Cat5 cable from the back of the Fritz to the phone jackpoint and making all jackpoints live for data?.

Providing there is a 240v power connection near by the ONT can go anywhere / the RGW - in your case a fitzboz - can also go anywhere providing there is a network cable connection available between them - you could put it where your existing modem/router is if you want and your cableing works out to be run back to a common point and can be unstraped for one to one working / data connections (unlike a phone wireing ) is one to one - so if there is only one rj45 jack then you will be out of luck to back feed data to another location.

Even though your install of the ONT and connection of the RGW would be free - sorry but straightening out any cableing issues would be chargeable and you would have to arrange for your provider to request that of the installers when you put in your connection request otherwise they will not be able/allowed to do it when they come. (Not all installers are trained in structured cableing - as it hasnt been a requirement in the past for general phone installs)

NOTE: for those in the know - yes i know that you can use spliters to make one full rj45 jack point become 2x10/100 rj45s