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#136422 26-Nov-2013 19:59
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Hey Guys

My parents are moving to an ISP that is BYO modem/router and is after an easy router for them to set up and manage if anything goes wrong - ive read other threads but not sure which one is easiest for them to set up and manage

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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  #941241 26-Nov-2013 20:02
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Hmmm. If they are after a router that's easy to setup and manage specifically, should they be going with an ISP that's only offering BYO VDSL router?

Unless you have a very very specific set of requirements, it's usually best to take the supplied router. I concede for 10% of the people on here and 0.001% of the general population, there could be reasons to want to BYO router.

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  #941251 26-Nov-2013 20:21
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Talkiet: Hmmm. If they are after a router that's easy to setup and manage specifically, should they be going with an ISP that's only offering BYO VDSL router?

Unless you have a very very specific set of requirements, it's usually best to take the supplied router. I concede for 10% of the people on here and 0.001% of the general population, there could be reasons to want to BYO router.

Cheers - N




Well as i understand it - the isp they are looking at moving to offer vdsl at a decent price but it is only with BYO modem

 


they have no specific set of requirements just that the isp they are looking at going to doesnt supply modems so they are looking at getting something that is easy for them to use and set up at around the ~$200 mark

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  #941255 26-Nov-2013 20:26
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You really need to tell us what specifications they want, because there really is a significant difference in a $140 Draytek and a $400 Fritz!box.




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  #941294 26-Nov-2013 21:02
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sbiddle: You really need to tell us what specifications they want, because there really is a significant difference in a $140 Draytek and a $400 Fritz!box.



Just a basic router/modem for them to use - doesnt need wireless as all there machines are wired back to a gig switch

there current set up is TPLINK W8970 -> Gig switch -> PC

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  #941343 26-Nov-2013 22:00
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Zyxel P870h bridged to the TPLINK





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  #941408 27-Nov-2013 06:21
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Cbfd:
sbiddle: You really need to tell us what specifications they want, because there really is a significant difference in a $140 Draytek and a $400 Fritz!box.



Just a basic router/modem for them to use - doesnt need wireless as all there machines are wired back to a gig switch

there current set up is TPLINK W8970 -> Gig switch -> PC


You simply want a Zyxel or Draytek DV130 in bridge mode to use the existing router.


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  #941451 27-Nov-2013 08:28
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Where the patch panel is located there is not enough room to have 2 modems in bridge mode hint the reason for one vdsl router



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  #941466 27-Nov-2013 08:53
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Zyxel P-870H/HW

Just use it as a router and don't muck around bridging. Wireless performance is average but for $200 you aren't going to get much better.

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  #941471 27-Nov-2013 09:02
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chevrolux: Zyxel P-870H/HW

Just use it as a router and don't muck around bridging. Wireless performance is average but for $200 you aren't going to get much better.


P870HW was canned about 5 months ago now. The replacement is the VMG8324.

The TP-Link router the OP has is a vastly superior product to both. I would see no logic in replacing it when using a bridge takes 30 seconds to configure and is cheaper.


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  #941491 27-Nov-2013 09:27
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Once they move to the vdsl ill be taking the tp link as its my test modem for work this is why it cant be bridged and also the fast the patch panel only has room for one router\modem .

Is it possible to use the draytek 130 with dhcp for the enabled and connect that to the bacl of there switcg

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  #941663 27-Nov-2013 12:02
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Just looked up the router again, teach me for just glancing over a picture quickly.
Didn't see the the combo LAN/WAN port.

Just to reiterate what evryone else has said, standard Zyxel P870 (or the Draytek DV130) bridged to that will do nicely.

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  #941697 27-Nov-2013 13:04
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Talkiet:

Unless you have a very very specific set of requirements, it's usually best to take the supplied router. I concede for 10% of the people on here and 0.001% of the general population, there could be reasons to want to BYO router.



Unless it's a Thomson/Technicolor like what Telecom supply and you actually want DNS, wireless, UPNP, NAT, Windows 8 and Apple devices to work properly.....

/just saying ™

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  #941700 27-Nov-2013 13:12
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Ragnor:
Talkiet:

Unless you have a very very specific set of requirements, it's usually best to take the supplied router. I concede for 10% of the people on here and 0.001% of the general population, there could be reasons to want to BYO router.



Unless it's a Thomson/Technicolor like what Telecom supply and you actually want DNS, wireless, UPNP, NAT, Windows 8 and Apple devices to work properly.....

/just saying ™


Are you saying DNS doesn't work on the Thompson VDSL router? Or NAT, or Wireless etc?

I know many people that are using that router out of the box and those features all work.

A throwaway comment suggesting a very large part of the core functionality is broken is not helpful or productive.

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