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# 181149 4-Oct-2015 18:55
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What I Have Now

My existing network consists of a modem-router in the study, which connects to the internet (obviously), my desktop PC, my NAS, an ethernet-over powerline adapter, and my laptop (when used in the study), as well as providing wireless-N connectivity.

My powerline network consists of:

 

  • one Netgear XAVB 5001 adapter (in the study connecting the router to the network), and
  • two XAVB 5004 adapters with four gigabit ports (one in the bedroom, one in the living room).
They work great, media players in the two rooms, my DVD recorder, my Hauppauge Broadway, and my two music streaming boxes are all on the same network, can see the NAS, and I get stable transfers in the 70-80 mbit/sec range. They have been in place for a couple of years, work fine, and I'm generally happy with the performance so far.

What I want to Do

I want to expand my network to a couple more rooms, move some powerstrips onto surge protected ones (which powerline adapters don't like working through) so I want to move to adapters with AC passthrough, and also add a powerline WiFi access point to a place where my coverage is crappy. I want to keep using my netgear adapters (esp the 4-port hubs, which are fairly unique), as they work well and I don't want to spend to replace them if at all avoidable.

Netgear adapters don't seem readily available in NZ available any more, and their model with AC passthrough doesn't even seem available in NZ. I have latched onto the Netcomm adapters (NP507 and NP508) as the ones that look the best. They cost a bit more than the alternatives, but seem to have the best specs and performance.

So, I want to move a few adapters around, and add two NP507s and one NP508 to the mix.

The Issue

I'm a bit worried about whether the Netcomm adapters will "play nice" with the Netgear ones. In theory they are both Homeplug units so *should* be compatible. But I have also seen some stern injunctions that mixing different brands may not work well.

So I'm wondering whether any GZers have any experience with this, and can advise whether adding Netcomms into the mix is likely to be sensible idea or not.

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  # 1399787 4-Oct-2015 19:24
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From what I understand there are standards, but I'm not sure if different brands are compatible. Of some interest, with the Netcomm units, my FritzBox 7490 was able to detect them and tell me stats about throughput etc.

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  # 1399854 4-Oct-2015 21:05
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I tried some netcomm units with some edimax ones I already had - but they would not talk to each other.




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  # 1400351 5-Oct-2015 15:23
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I've got one unused DLink DHP-308AV spare of you want it for $0 incl freight.  It's my understanding that these things all comply to a standard and so should be interoperable, but I've never tried this.  They are all secured with a password and different vendors have their own default communication password, so you might need to use the manufacturers utility to reset the passwords on all units to something you know.

Personally I am using a pair of Edimax HP-5102ACK devices with the AC pass through (integrated power socket) over a tricky cable run (buried 1.5mm cable out to a garage that is 10m away from the house) in a 1960's house, and having good success.  Not sure of the performance I am getting, but it is faster than our 30mbps VDSL.  I do have to power off the devices 2-4 times per year when communication stops inexplicably.




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  # 1400352 5-Oct-2015 15:28
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Dynamic: I've got one unused DLink DHP-308AV spare of you want it for $0 incl freight. ...


if OP is not interested, i am happy to take up that offer





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  # 1400371 5-Oct-2015 15:59
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*chuckle* ok give him 24 hours and then PM me.




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  # 1400398 5-Oct-2015 16:24
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Well, not trying to hijack this topic... I have 4 EoP units too - I think it's D-link?




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  # 1400504 5-Oct-2015 19:25
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Dynamic: I've got one unused DLink DHP-308AV spare of you want it for $0 incl freight. 


Many thanks for the kind offer, but I'll pass. I am specifically looking for ones with AC-passthrough, preferrably with gigabit ports as well, so that I can replace the powerstrips I currently have them plugged into with surge protected ones and also maximise speed. I then hope to migrate the adapters I have freed up to the rooms I want to extend the network to.

Sadly, netgear seem to make them and they would be compatible with my existing units, but they haven't released them in this market or with Aus/NZ plugs and voltages.

 
 
 
 


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nakedmolerat PM me your address and I'll send it off tomorrow.  It's sitting on my desk ready to be sent.




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There are two standards of powerline networking

Most now use homeplug AV as a base - thats the 200mbit one

But in my experience, different brands are not generally compatible with each other - especially as they use different methods to authenticate. 




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  # 1402200 8-Oct-2015 09:44
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JimmyH:
Dynamic: I've got one unused DLink DHP-308AV spare of you want it for $0 incl freight. 


Many thanks for the kind offer, but I'll pass. I am specifically looking for ones with AC-passthrough, preferrably with gigabit ports as well, so that I can replace the powerstrips I currently have them plugged into with surge protected ones and also maximise speed. I then hope to migrate the adapters I have freed up to the rooms I want to extend the network to.

Sadly, netgear seem to make them and they would be compatible with my existing units, but they haven't released them in this market or with Aus/NZ plugs and voltages.


Yeah using EoP on surge protected powerstrip degrades hugely on the signal as it's "noise" to the surge protector.




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