Powerline adapters - is 'passthrough' essential?

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#189205 20-Dec-2015 16:58

Hello,
Looking at buying a powerline kit to reach the back garage. Preferably one that offers a wireless access point. Does it need to have passthrough or not?
Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad?
Any help much appreciated.

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#1453973 20-Dec-2015 17:26

pass through is generally the ac side of things, ie it lets you plug another device in ontop of it so as not to take up a power point. that is really up to you.

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#1453975 20-Dec-2015 17:28

Does it affect performance at all? Can you plug into a multi-plug?

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#1453976 20-Dec-2015 17:31

have you look to see what it says in the manual of one?

from one of the manufactures products
"The integrated power socket allows an additional device or power bar to be connected to the adapter as though it were a normal wall socket."

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#1453983 20-Dec-2015 18:23

Very useful since most are the size of a bus so block all the adjacent outlets.

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#1453987 20-Dec-2015 19:07

Jase2985: have you look to see what it says in the manual of one?

from one of the manufactures products
"The integrated power socket allows an additional device or power bar to be connected to the adapter as though it were a normal wall socket."

Just read a couple different manuals and they both it should be directly into the wall socket. So passthrough would be preferable.

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#1453989 20-Dec-2015 19:26

Have tried plugging the Powerline into multi adapter or power multi board.
Does not seems to work.
Have to plug direct into the wall for best result.
Well sort of, seems of the 8 powerboard I tried, only one seems to work, sometimes.

Am using Dlink DHP-1321, with 4 "slave"

Thru put not that great, but for the convenience cannot complain, besides am not going to go any faster than the pathetic internet anyway.

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#1453990 20-Dec-2015 19:32

Hunter: Have tried plugging the Powerline into multi adapter or power multi board.
Does not seems to work.
Have to plug direct into the wall for best result.
Well sort of, seems of the 8 powerboard I tried, only one seems to work, sometimes.

Am using Dlink DHP-1321, with 4 "slave"

Thru put not that great, but for the convenience cannot complain, besides am not going to go any faster than the pathetic internet anyway.

Thank you for the feedback. So no good for gaming?

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#1454012 20-Dec-2015 20:36

I'm pushing my devices to the limit (in terms of cable length out to a garage that is at least 20 paces from the house and 40 paces from the distribution board) and getting the following ping results to my NAS

64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=54.973 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=78.095 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=100.378 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=18.090 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=40.742 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=64.231 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=85.250 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=110.139 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=29.720 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=53.418 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=10.099 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=97.406 ms

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#1454014 20-Dec-2015 20:38

Ouch! ugly performance there. What is it like when you increse the size to 1500 or so? I was getting worse times than that from house to shed and wasnt even able to play a flac file over it without interupptions, but that was with only "200 megabit" ones.

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#1454025 20-Dec-2015 20:48

The connection to the garage is not too bad to use... youtube at 720p is usually OK, and I back up a couple of GB per day from work to the NAS at home over VDSL at both ends. Transferring movies between the main and spare tivo over this link happens at OK speed. If you give it a 5 min head start you can stream Freeview HD recordings from one tivo to the other. RDP sessions to work are fine. My gaming these days is limited to the occasional Halo4 session on the eggsbox in the house.

Ping times with a 1400 packet size:

Mikes-iMac:~ mike$ ping -c 10 -s 1400 192.168.20.13
PING 192.168.20.13 (192.168.20.13): 1400 data bytes
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=103.612 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=109.076 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=128.657 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=48.258 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=71.436 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=92.294 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=111.756 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=33.153 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=63.979 ms
1408 bytes from 192.168.20.13: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=78.724 ms

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#1454027 20-Dec-2015 20:50

Yeah looks like what I had roughly. Except for all the gaps in it where it stressed out when I turned on the garage fluros or other noisy loads.

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#1454029 20-Dec-2015 20:53

So not looking like a good option for me. I have a garage/room out the back where I wanted the reliable net re gaming etc.

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#1454036 20-Dec-2015 21:09

it all depends on the quality of the wiring and the distance. if its in the next room it could be a bit better

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#1454040 20-Dec-2015 21:13

Buy it from a place with a good return policy and use it if they suck for you. Sales people will usually say things will do stuff they wont just to close a sale so ask questions about is it good for games and movies and stuff and they will say yes.

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#1454072 20-Dec-2015 22:18

I use these: DHP-701AV

Get around 130~200mbps from point to point. It fluctuates depending on electrical load around the house at any given time.. and these are suppose to be the latest and greatest! Certainly no where near the '2000mbps' thats advertised (or even possible with Gig devices anyway)

Very bulky, takes up two power outlets, will work with a strip board but performance degrades. I'm using from each ends of my house which is a brand new house so perfect wiring too, if you have an older house performance could be degraded.

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