Playstation 5 internet - HOW? Ethernet? Booster?

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#302835 26-Dec-2022 22:55

Got a new Playstation 5 in the family for Christmas. Its in the sleepout - around 10metres from the modem - so the internet is completely poor - even though it showed a 30mb/s connection - games keep lagging when playing live online with others...

Looking at getting an ethernet cable for it - but it has to be waterproof/outdoors - so thinking of getting this one - and running under the gutter around the top of house - and then crossing over 2m to the sleepout - https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABOPL1008/OPL-FTP6-20-20-Metre-Cat6-FTP-Outdoor-Shielded-Eth

OR - should we be looking at a booster? we purchased one - but it did a completely poor job we ditched it (we put it in the garage which is between the sleepout / modem - but it did nothing at all - so ditched it...

Any recommendations/confirmation? Would love to be able to get something tomorrow 27th Dec so that we can game over next few days... We're based in Auckland so hopefully that gives us a few more options...

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#3014147 26-Dec-2022 23:42

Congrats on your PS5! Download Resogun it's great fun.

An ethernet cable is an optimal solution from a reliability, speed, and latency perspective, especially if you can live with its installation of it.

Alternatively, you could look at a Mesh Wireless System. Tplink make decent ones which are easily guided setup with a smartphone.

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#3014148 26-Dec-2022 23:47

Thanks for game suggestion :)

Yeah the Ethernet was probably the optimal due to ping and latency etc but mesh - did not think of that. Will
Explore that option :) and see what comes up as wireless honesty would be preferred especially as if we end up
Moving the PS5 later on etc…

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#3014154 27-Dec-2022 02:52

wireless will lag even if you're next to the modem

all servers are overseas so you already have lag - add wifi and your gameplay will be terrible

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#3014159 27-Dec-2022 08:05

Batman:
wireless will lag even if you're next to the modem

all servers are overseas so you already have lag - add wifi and your gameplay will be terrible

Nonsense. Modern wireless with good coverage will be totally fine. Poorly setup wireless or wireless problems could cause latency and wired is always better but I run both my consoles off wireless and it's perfectly fine.

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#3014164 27-Dec-2022 08:47

1) Wifi extenders may increase range, but will almost always introduce further delay, and should be avoided where possible
2) Ethernet cable will be better than WiFi. UV/moisture rated is best for outside, but a non rated one will survive for a year or 2 for a temporary solution
3) Is your lag simply related to this and nothing to do with your WiFi? Might just be lots of people playing at the same time due to holidays.

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#3014165 27-Dec-2022 08:49

Batman:

wireless will lag even if you're next to the modem

all servers are overseas so you already have lag - add wifi and your gameplay will be terrible

Are you speaking from (recent) experience, or are you just going off what you've heard from the guy down at the pub?

Uncongested, well tuned, modern Wi-Fi is fine. A cable will always be the better performing option, but that's not always the easiest option. Hence why wireless is a viable contender.

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#3014166 27-Dec-2022 08:52

RunningMan:
1) Wifi extenders may increase range, but will almost always introduce further delay, and should be avoided where possible
2) Ethernet cable will be better than WiFi. UV/moisture rated is best for outside, but a non rated one will survive for a year or 2 for a temporary solution
3) Is your lag simply related to this and nothing to do with your WiFi? Might just be lots of people playing at the same time due to holidays.

Thanks but it’s happening for Netflix and Disney too. Keeps buffering and freezing so it’s the wifi not the game - but thanks for reminding me that some of the game could be coz everyone’s on it too so yeah.

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#3014167 27-Dec-2022 08:54

How did you measure the 30Mb/s? That should be plenty for most video streaming.

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#3014170 27-Dec-2022 08:55

I’m considering getting this as then we can cover the black spot at the other end of house (not that it matters as kids are young atm but eventually it will matter and at least getting this will sort that end too)

Thoughts?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETDLK3113/D-Link-COVR-1103-Smart-Mesh-Wi-Fi-System---3-Pack

Ethernet - it seems complicated when the sleep out is short term so will set it up properly when we build permanent etc so this mesh option be best for now

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#3014171 27-Dec-2022 09:00

kiwichris83: I’m considering getting this as then we can cover the black spot at the other end of house (not that it matters as kids are young atm but eventually it will matter and at least getting this will sort that end too)

Thoughts?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETDLK3113/D-Link-COVR-1103-Smart-Mesh-Wi-Fi-System---3-Pack

Ethernet - it seems complicated when the sleep out is short term so will set it up properly when we build permanent etc so this mesh option be best for now

Using ps5 network test got me 29.5mb/s
Using chorus speed test on MacBook Pro got me 31.9mb/s
Using the Ookla speed test on iPhone 12 got me 27mb/s

Definitely not enough. Am watching premier league in sleepout right now and it’s buffering a lot :(

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#3014172 27-Dec-2022 09:03

kiwichris83: I’m considering getting this as then we can cover the black spot at the other end of house (not that it matters as kids are young atm but eventually it will matter and at least getting this will sort that end too)

Thoughts?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETDLK3113/D-Link-COVR-1103-Smart-Mesh-Wi-Fi-System---3-Pack

Ethernet - it seems complicated when the sleep out is short term so will set it up properly when we build permanent etc so this mesh option be best for now

I have no hands-on experience with D-Link and believe it would likely meet your objectives, however, in my opinion, rather than budgeting on this as a way to solve *this* problem *now*, look at it as a bigger long-term investment that will 'cover' you for the future.

Some basics around wireless. Dual Channel Wireless is fine if you are going to connect your access points via ethernet, a third channel is useful and will improve performance and reliability if you are doing 'only' wireless.

Wifi6 is faster, but covers less distance. Seems like your distances aren't huge. You could buy a 2 set kit and add to it if required in the future.

Tp-link Deco are very user-friendly, and have a wide install base.

In my opinion, you should 'invest' a little more now.

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#3014173 27-Dec-2022 09:05

Mehrts:

Are you speaking from (recent) experience, or are you just going off what you've heard from the guy down at the pub?

It reminds me of when people state 'NZ has third world internet' when that hasn't been true for many many years!

Today's wireless isn't your grandfathers wireless.

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#3014174 27-Dec-2022 09:05

How short is short-term for the sleepout?

If it's three to six months(ish), then just a regular $10-20 cat6 patch cable will be fine doesn't have to be sheilded or armoured. Route it sensibly and it'll last that time.

For longer term stuff, then burial cable is recomended, or even fibre (but that's a whole other topic).

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#3014176 27-Dec-2022 09:10

We looking at 6-12 months but less if we can help it.

Feedback from Google says don’t use normal cat6 coz damage can damage the equipment and don’t feel like wrecking a $1200 ps5….

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#3014179 27-Dec-2022 09:23

kiwichris83:
Feedback from Google says don’t use normal cat6 coz damage can damage the equipment and don’t feel like wrecking a $1200 ps5….

Fair call.

That's usually due to lightning strikes nearby, or ground loops. Hence why fibre is the ultimate but overkill solution for this. Wi-Fi is a happy medium.

Sheilded Ethernet cable needs to be grounded at one end in order to work properly, otherwise it can cause issues due to voltage being induced on the sheild and acting like a giant antenna.

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