DIA gets "great" deal on defunct HP cloud offering

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#208226 1-Feb-2017 20:30

You got to wonder what the DIA was thinking, by getting a deal for all-government on a defunct product

http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-the-heck-is-hpe-up-to-with-its-cloud/

From ZDNet in March 2016:

HPE's cloud story remains complicated. While the company has left the public cloud behind, it will continue to offer its OpenStack-based Helion 3.0 as a private cloud.

HPE, HP Enterprise, closed down its public cloud because it just stank.

I'm confused. HPE's cloud story has more plotlines than Game of Thrones, but without anything like as much action.

Most recently, HPE closed down its Helion public cloud. HPE CEO Meg Whitman had reason. The Helion public cloud simply wasn't that good

Here's the DIA press release:

New Zealand government secures major agreement with HP Enterprise

The Department of Internal Affairs (DIA) has secured a pan-government agreement with Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) New Zealand – a significant global ICT supplier to New Zealand’s government agencies. This builds on the previous pan-government agreements DIA has negotiated with global ICT suppliers.

Government Chief Technology Officer, Tim Occleshaw, is pleased to achieve this milestone. “This agreement aligns with our strategy of New Zealand Government acting as a single customer and will support government agencies in embracing the move to the cloud. This system-wide approach is key to government’s digital services transformation as part of the shift to a digital economy and society.”

The agreement, that allows eligible government agencies to buy new software licences, cloud services and appliances from HPE under standardised terms, will result in substantial savings across the public sector over its initial three-year term, as well as saving time and resources through a simplified procurement process.

It also means all public sector agencies are able to access pricing that reflects the purchasing power of NZ government, as well as products that are structured in a manner that aligns with how government wants to consume ICT services.

“More widely,” he says, “this agreement presents an exciting and important opportunity for New Zealand. It demonstrates the collaboration and collective strength that agency chief executives aspired to when we developed the Government ICT Strategy. Our vision is to create a single, coherent government ICT system that enables a radical transformation of public services. Our agreement with HPE is another step towards achieving this goal.”

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#1714198 1-Feb-2017 21:31

I would assume this will be a Private Cloud setup for the Gov't agencies, not the public one.

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#1714206 1-Feb-2017 21:44

Government already has IAAS, which isn't private cloud, but it's outsourced computing. I assumed that govt departments already use HPE and this is simply cost savings through negotiation between The NZ Govt as a whole and HPE. I sincerely doubt any government department is going to decide to invest in a niche cloud based on this, they don't live under a rock, they have all the information any other architect has and more.

DIA/GCIO/GCSB are around 60% of the way through an effort to investigate and promote public cloud adoption in Govt, and I strongly suspect their focus will be the big players, AWS and Azure. Ministry of Health has approved a small number of cloud services / providers, including Azure, AWS, and what look like some narrowly targeted SAAS services.

So all in all this HPE announcement is likely to be niche, to address existing use of HPE, not to promote or extend it.

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#1714270 2-Feb-2017 01:36

HPE itself will cease to exist on April first, half having been sold and the other half being re-branded somehow. The Min Health would be one of the worst IT organizations in the public sector, so they are not a good reference point for outcomes. The HPE deal is simply a purchasing agreement for a bundle of services and products, just like the Oracle deal before that the Microsoft deal.

The amount of money 'saved' pales into insignificance next to the amount of money wasted on poor usage of the products and services purchased at 'special' pricing.

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#1714283 2-Feb-2017 07:06

BlinkyBill: HPE itself will cease to exist on April first, half having been sold and the other half being re-branded somehow. The Min Health would be one of the worst IT organizations in the public sector, so they are not a good reference point for outcomes. The HPE deal is simply a purchasing agreement for a bundle of services and products, just like the Oracle deal before that the Microsoft deal.

The amount of money 'saved' pales into insignificance next to the amount of money wasted on poor usage of the products and services purchased at 'special' pricing.

That's not quite correct. HPE will still exist, and will sell server hardware etc. The services business and software businesses are being spun off to separate companies.

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