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#1346239 17-Jul-2015 13:37

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networkn: I filled up last night for a grand total of $67 which was an incredible saving over what it cost me with 98 petrol. I was overjoyed. Other than the Diesel rattle, I am MIGHTILY Impressed with my new car!

Wait until you have to buy road user charges then, that smile will wipe away. The Govt needs to get out of the dark ages and start taxing diesel at the pump.

I paid in advance and had no issue with it. Not sure how much you think it cost, but it was nothing like petrol.

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#1347207 19-Jul-2015 14:58

I have a 2009 2.0 diesel common rail [mine averages 6.3L/100]

The rule of thumb for diesels at least according to the AA is that if you do less than 14K per annum you are better off with a petrol car

Some of the newer petrol cars are more economical than older diesels

Also note >5% biodiesel can be added without notification at the retail pump, Gull do this at approx 10 stations in the top half of the N.I. z Energy will be doing the same early - mid 2016. B5 shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of vehicles.

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#1347217 19-Jul-2015 15:10

xlinknz: I have a 2009 2.0 diesel common rail [mine averages 6.3L/100]

The rule of thumb for diesels at least according to the AA is that if you do less than 14K per annum you are better off with a petrol car

Some of the newer petrol cars are more economical than older diesels

Also note >5% biodiesel can be added without notification at the retail pump, Gull do this at approx 10 stations in the top half of the N.I. z Energy will be doing the same early - mid 2016. B5 shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of vehicles.

I'd be doing 10K a year, but there was more than one reason to buy this particular car :)

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#1347275 19-Jul-2015 17:15

networkn:
xlinknz: I have a 2009 2.0 diesel common rail [mine averages 6.3L/100]

The rule of thumb for diesels at least according to the AA is that if you do less than 14K per annum you are better off with a petrol car

Some of the newer petrol cars are more economical than older diesels

Also note >5% biodiesel can be added without notification at the retail pump, Gull do this at approx 10 stations in the top half of the N.I. z Energy will be doing the same early - mid 2016. B5 shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of vehicles.

I'd be doing 10K a year, but there was more than one reason to buy this particular car :)

I did my own diesel calculation last year.

If the diesel consumption is more than 5L per 100km, you'll need to do at least 15000km a year to be even with petrol cost (after RUC) - which happen to be similar to the quoted AA value above.

Anyway, I like the smell of diesel.

I spend 10 mins every morning enjoying the diesel smell before going to work. It's like drinking the best coffee in town. ;-P

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#1347492 20-Jul-2015 09:45

Anyway, I like the smell of diesel.

I spend 10 mins every morning enjoying the diesel smell before going to work. It's like drinking the best coffee in town. ;-P

You soon get over that when you are trying to wash it off a cat.... Turns out they don't like water very much (and neither does diesel).

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#1347569 20-Jul-2015 10:31

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networkn: I filled up last night for a grand total of $67 which was an incredible saving over what it cost me with 98 petrol. I was overjoyed. Other than the Diesel rattle, I am MIGHTILY Impressed with my new car!

How about them RUCs?

Yep and registration..

Both of those were the reason we got rid our diesel vehicle..

Rego is now only $50 per year more than an equivalent petrol vehicle.

Why does it cost more than petrol at all?

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#1347684 20-Jul-2015 11:56

Geektastic:
grant_k:
old3eyes:
bazzer:
networkn: I filled up last night for a grand total of $67 which was an incredible saving over what it cost me with 98 petrol. I was overjoyed. Other than the Diesel rattle, I am MIGHTILY Impressed with my new car!

How about them RUCs?

Yep and registration..

Both of those were the reason we got rid our diesel vehicle..

Rego is now only $50 per year more than an equivalent petrol vehicle.

Why does it cost more than petrol at all?

Because ACC is levied both as part of petrol fuel excise, and from vehicle licensing, but is not included in RUC.

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#1350799 23-Jul-2015 20:59

BTR:
Wait until you have to buy road user charges then, that smile will wipe away. The Govt needs to get out of the dark ages and start taxing diesel at the pump.

It would be problematic to collect RUC tax at the pump on diesel, as it what commercial boats, machinery, generators run on.

I would rather see the opposite. Lose the at pump tax for all fuels and go to per km RUC for all vehicles.

Every time I buy fuel for the boat, I am paying RUC tax. And the amount of fuel the boat uses in an hour would get me over 250km in my old Primera. You used to be able to claim ti back (with great difficulty). No longer though.

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#1353908 28-Jul-2015 22:21

I love the torque you get from a diesel engine, its responsive all through the range. (like the torque and instant response from the tesla electric too, but they're still pretty pricy)

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