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kaljames79
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  #350013 11-Jul-2010 19:57
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sbiddle:
I'd love the price of beer to be cheaper also. I don't think it's fair the way it is. If you want a 250GB plan there is nothing stopping you from getting it. Just don't expect to pay $79 for it because that is a totally unsustainable price.


Thats untrue and you know it. 



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  #350014 11-Jul-2010 20:01
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kaljames79: I'm not gonna count Telstra because they are not available in most places that the other 2 are.


TeltraClear has the largest number of unbundled exchanges in the country, ahead of Vodafone and Orcon. They are the second largest ISP in New Zealand.

Their cable modem network is available in Wellington, Christchurch only but their DSL service is pretty much everywhere you want it to be.

As sbiddle told you Telecom uses the same network as the others and have to pay the same price to access it - and the price is set by the Commerce Commision. At some point that price is not right and they have to stop offering products.

I am starting to think this is just a "let's hate Telecom for the sake of being Telecom" discussion. Facts are a bit different though.





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  #350015 11-Jul-2010 20:05
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kaljames79:
sbiddle:
I'd love the price of beer to be cheaper also. I don't think it's fair the way it is. If you want a 250GB plan there is nothing stopping you from getting it. Just don't expect to pay $79 for it because that is a totally unsustainable price.


Thats untrue and you know it. 


Do you have facts to show us that an ISP can provide a 250GB plan for $79? I am currently paying more than $200/month for a 120GB plan on TelstraClear.





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  #350016 11-Jul-2010 20:07
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Penlize the people downloading the Tb not the rest of us FFS

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  #350027 11-Jul-2010 20:52
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And how you propose penalising them? Cut off their internet for a month? Then Telecom is *still* the bad guy.

I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download?? It seems people were downloading just for the sake of downloading.

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  #350030 11-Jul-2010 21:04
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quickymart: And how you propose penalising them? Cut off their internet for a month? Then Telecom is *still* the bad guy.

I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download?? It seems people were downloading just for the sake of downloading.


Forgive me but what a twat arguement, like anyone would know who they are,  my beef is with telecom / xtra a for not having the bottle to do something about the few to affect the many and the having an excuse to rort the client (me) anyway possible.

So on with my slippers i chose to vote with my feet, and that will include all my immediate family when they get the same letter and ring me, and they will.

And i have had enough of their shyte mobile phone service to boot

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  #350037 11-Jul-2010 21:34
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I get the feeling any steps put in place to restrict such people from downloading in-excess would no doubt be circumvented by the same people.

 
 
 

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  #350042 11-Jul-2010 21:52
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quickymart: And how you propose penalising them? Cut off their internet for a month? Then Telecom is *still* the bad guy.

I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download?? It seems people were downloading just for the sake of downloading.


Forgive me but what a twat arguement, like anyone would know who they are,  my beef is with telecom / xtra a for not having the bottle to do something about the few to affect the many and the having an excuse to rort the client (me) anyway possible.

So on with my slippers i chose to vote with my feet, and that will include all my immediate family when they get the same letter and ring me, and they will.

And i have had enough of their shyte mobile phone service to boot


Years ago WorldxChange had an unlimited offering. They too suffered for a while. Then they cancelled the plan.

Stop and think a bit. Why can't you find "unlimited" plans around?





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  #350043 11-Jul-2010 21:52
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quickymart: I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download??


Look in the dictionary for the word "Unlimited".  

Should I find the people who downloaded a pb and send them hate mail for getting what they paid for?

Their system has handled this for 3 years so far... ...Why not upgrade chitty chitty bang bang and keep your clients?

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  #350045 11-Jul-2010 21:57
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quickymart: I get the feeling any steps put in place to restrict such people from downloading in-excess would no doubt be circumvented by the same people.


Yep, the only way they really could have restricted them would have been to:
a) warn them and disconnect their account for the rest of the month
b) disconnect their account permanantly after the first warning and months disconnetion if they carried on.

Optus cable had to do it in OZ as they were unlimited on Cable at one stage. They wiped you if you kept exceeding their fair use limits. I know as my daughter got wiped for downloading gigabytes of songs and kept going after they warned her so they wiped her.

I'm not sure how that would have gone down with xtra, perhaps they didn't want to go down that road as they didn't have any fair use policy/limits in place whereas optus did and had a fair use policy and meter in place that you could callup and see if you were getting close to the limits.

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  #350054 11-Jul-2010 23:09
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quickymart: I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download??


Look in the dictionary for the word "Unlimited".  

Should I find the people who downloaded a pb and send them hate mail for getting what they paid for?

Their system has handled this for 3 years so far... ...Why not upgrade chitty chitty bang bang and keep your clients?

You reckon the system has "handled this" for three years? A good portion of the Telecom forum here not so long ago was made of people complaining about their Big Time performance.

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  #350056 11-Jul-2010 23:16
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sadamhu:
quickymart: I understand people are upset Big Time is going - but you should be directing your anger at the people who downloaded 1TB+ in a month - come on people, how much do you need to download??


Look in the dictionary for the word "Unlimited".  

Should I find the people who downloaded a pb and send them hate mail for getting what they paid for?

Their system has handled this for 3 years so far... ...Why not upgrade chitty chitty bang bang and keep your clients?


pb?

why would anyone care about anyone downloading a picobyte

1 byte x 10^-12


what an odd thing to say


Tongue out




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  #350059 11-Jul-2010 23:33
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you knew what I meant LOL!

but if there was someone going to send hate mail to people that downloaded picobytes it would be quickymart. 

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  #350061 11-Jul-2010 23:35
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If you say so.

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  #350071 12-Jul-2010 07:50
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what do you expect?  BT for the rest of your life?  Talk about rorting the system.

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