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Kiwi1971

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#351426 14-Jul-2010 15:09

sadamhu:
Kelem: I will not miss the constant BS that rolls out of that company, At least that is what i told them very nicely

Same. When oct 8 comes I'll be outta there.

Actually thinking about it, i will be out of contract by then. Can I get naked broadband with an inactive phoneline?
I can't remember what it entails.

D

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#351427 14-Jul-2010 15:11

Kiwi1971: So has anyone been able to break contract without penalty because Telecom will no longer provide the service people signed up for?

Telecom already said they would not charge early termination fees. They confirmed this at the time of the announcement. People should have no problems moving away.

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#351461 14-Jul-2010 16:16

I would be very careful about the oct 8th date.
You notice in the letter it says BY OCTOBER 8TH not ON OCTOBER 8TH which means they can move you anytime after 13th august.
You might find yourself paying an extra month on whatever plan they put you on if you are leaving ...

Kelem

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#351476 14-Jul-2010 16:47

From the bottom of my letter

"No matter which plan you choose, or even if you decide to end your broadband connection with us, you won't be charged a early termination fee."

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#351480 14-Jul-2010 17:02

thats right, but you'll probably be charged for the month you are on up to your next billing date and they don't refund what you have paid upto the billing date. Some isp's require one months notice on leaving which is different from an early termination fee.
If you leave on or just before your billing date your even..

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#351488 14-Jul-2010 17:21

Kiwi1971:
sadamhu:
Kelem: I will not miss the constant BS that rolls out of that company, At least that is what i told them very nicely

Same. When oct 8 comes I'll be outta there.

Actually thinking about it, i will be out of contract by then. Can I get naked broadband with an inactive phoneline?
I can't remember what it entails.

D

Not with Telecom. Other providers do it tho.

sadamhu

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#351858 15-Jul-2010 13:26

cafeg: And yes I know it wouldn't be true unlimited with that policy in place, but then what is unlimited/all you can eat in this world of the internet..

Its a Terrabyte a month.

Kelem: And how does that not make telecom the best part of incompetent for letting it happen?

Telecom have the tap! couldn't they put the squeeze on people that have been downloading at 1.4mb a sec for 2 days straight?

THEN IF

They have to keep slowing down a particular IP that likes to download at 1.4mb for 5-6 days straight then cut them off the contract just like its written down in th terms and conditions.

BUT!

Wouldn't finding out what people are downloading in order to get them booted breach the privacy act?
Since, in order to find out if someone is downloading torrents you would have to into the records of what people are looking at or downloading?

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#351901 15-Jul-2010 14:20

sadamhu:
cafeg: And yes I know it wouldn't be true unlimited with that policy in place, but then what is unlimited/all you can eat in this world of the internet..

Its a Terrabyte a month.

Kelem: And how does that not make telecom the best part of incompetent for letting it happen?

Telecom have the tap! couldn't they put the squeeze on people that have been downloading at 1.4mb a sec for 2 days straight?

THEN IF

They have to keep slowing down a particular IP that likes to download at 1.4mb for 5-6 days straight then cut them off the contract just like its written down in th terms and conditions.

BUT!

Wouldn't finding out what people are downloading in order to get them booted breach the privacy act?
Since, in order to find out if someone is downloading torrents you would have to into the records of what people are looking at or downloading?

Then the people downloading constantly at 1.4mb/s for several days would have a massive cry + rage.

No matter what they cant please everyone.

Fair Use / "slow them down" = people rage
Managed = people get angry & bypass it.
Capped @ 64kbps = rage.
FS/FS = people believe they should get 8 / 24 mbps constantly.
"Unlimited" = people believe they are entitled to Full Speed + Unlimited data for a small fee of $60/mo ...

Admittedly I liked the system prior to FS/FS where you chose roughly what you wanted.

Eg 2mbps / 128kbps

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#352000 15-Jul-2010 17:23

I would still like to know what the terrabyters were downloading ? or is that against their privacy to tell us what they were doing.
We could only just get over 100gig in a month and thats with 4 adults on the net fulltime.

Torrents were heavily restricted and hard to bypass so it I don't think it was them..

Secure newsgroups weren't but you had to pay an overseas provider a monthly fee.
I actually tried a small free trial on newsgroups and you could get around 800Kbps during peak time. But it was the same stuff that was in torrents anyway which you could get in the early hours during full speed time quite easily so why would you bother...

A download accelerator such as DAP could also get you over 800Kbps in peak time also but that was only for downloading files not torrents so once again why bother. There was also the serious risk of spyware built into them..

A terrabyte of data is a lot of data in a month and what would you do with it apart from deleting it once you had it then getting another terrabyte of data :-(

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#352038 15-Jul-2010 18:32

cafeg: I would still like to know what the terrabyters were downloading ? or is that against their privacy to tell us what they were doing.
We could only just get over 100gig in a month and thats with 4 adults on the net fulltime.

Torrents were heavily restricted and hard to bypass so it I don't think it was them..

Secure newsgroups weren't but you had to pay an overseas provider a monthly fee.
I actually tried a small free trial on newsgroups and you could get around 800Kbps during peak time. But it was the same stuff that was in torrents anyway which you could get in the early hours during full speed time quite easily so why would you bother...

A download accelerator such as DAP could also get you over 800Kbps in peak time also but that was only for downloading files not torrents so once again why bother. There was also the serious risk of spyware built into them..

A terrabyte of data is a lot of data in a month and what would you do with it apart from deleting it once you had it then getting another terrabyte of data :-(

Torrents were not hard to bypass - that was part of the problem. I know plenty of people on Big Time were were using a minimum of 300 GB's per month, often more... And before anybody asks yes these people were also spending a lot of money buying new storage continually to store their Linux ISO's.

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#352040 15-Jul-2010 18:36

Its been worked out that you could quite easily get to 1TB of data downloading Blueray movies. Add that to the fact that afew had worked out how to get around the traffic management systems.

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Kelem

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#352045 15-Jul-2010 18:44

I got my monthly averages from tc the other day 120gb for the last 3 months on average.
2 tweenagers on utube/facebook/whatever, and torrrents running 24/7, i get crap speed here in the biggest city in new zealand, i am not likely to ever see adsl2 in my lifetime.

cell phones don't work here either.

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