TVNZ Duke to go HD.

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#1929474 4-Jan-2018 21:28

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Intersting as Sky's contract with Optus ends 2019?

Ironical if Sky, which uses 1980's tech, goes to 100% streaming like it should be in 2018, and Duke goes to 1980's satellite!

Optus contract is renegotiated in 2021 (2006 + 15 years).

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#1929478 4-Jan-2018 21:35

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I dont see the correlation.

If they go 100% streaming then that would require all customers to have an unmetered (or very high data allowance) Internet connection. People in rural and remote communities don't have this, and probably never will. For example with RBI, 120GB will set you back $100. That's about 90 hours of HD streaming a month. If you have kids, you'd probably know that 3 hours per day between a family is definitely not enough :) Therefore I am going to assume that Sky will use satellites and STBs for the foreseeable future.

Sky is having enough issues to worry about, than catering for rural. Netflix etc dont cater for rural. Rural can get Freeview. If Sky does stay with Optus, its still a hard row to hoe. Rural wont help them financially.

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#1929479 4-Jan-2018 21:36

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tdgeek:

Intersting as Sky's contract with Optus ends 2019?

Ironical if Sky, which uses 1980's tech, goes to 100% streaming like it should be in 2018, and Duke goes to 1980's satellite!

Optus contract is renegotiated in 2021 (2006 + 15 years).

I thought it was 2018, then 2019, a 10 year contract when last signed. But you seem 100% certain.

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#1929480 4-Jan-2018 21:38

Cool, thanks for the heads up.

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#1929614 5-Jan-2018 09:21

tdgeek:

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tdgeek:

Intersting as Sky's contract with Optus ends 2019?

Ironical if Sky, which uses 1980's tech, goes to 100% streaming like it should be in 2018, and Duke goes to 1980's satellite!

Optus contract is renegotiated in 2021 (2006 + 15 years).

I thought it was 2018, then 2019, a 10 year contract when last signed. But you seem 100% certain.

A lot of Rural can't get Freeview Over the air and need satellite which is in SD. If they want HD then Sky is their only option or are you an urban dweller who couldn't give a toss about rural??

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#1929638 5-Jan-2018 09:58

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I thought Duke was already HD if you watched it via TVNZ on-demand...

Yup.

I missed the news a while back about TVNZ starting streaming their channels (including Duke)

How does the video and audio quality compare OTA vs streamed?

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#1929683 5-Jan-2018 10:36

old3eyes:

tdgeek:

Spyware:

tdgeek:

Intersting as Sky's contract with Optus ends 2019?

Ironical if Sky, which uses 1980's tech, goes to 100% streaming like it should be in 2018, and Duke goes to 1980's satellite!

Optus contract is renegotiated in 2021 (2006 + 15 years).

I thought it was 2018, then 2019, a 10 year contract when last signed. But you seem 100% certain.

A lot of Rural can't get Freeview Over the air and need satellite which is in SD. If they want HD then Sky is their only option or are you an urban dweller who couldn't give a toss about rural??

Im not rural, FV is there for satellite for rural people. With all the anti Sky hate, its ok for them to have to use 1980's tech to deliver FTA TV to rural people? Why can FV use HD on satellite, or is that too much cost, so leave that for someone else to stump up with? If Sky got woth the play and went SVOD only then that satisfies all the haters, but then it becomes Sky's fault?

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#1929696 5-Jan-2018 10:43

Gemini:

I missed the news a while back about TVNZ starting streaming their channels (including Duke)

How does the video and audio quality compare OTA vs streamed?

I'd say it is slightly better than Freeview Satellite, not sure if it is in HD as mentioned above. It's great when my single tuner PVR is recording something on one channel, and I want to watch a TVNZ channel live. The live stream also supports Chromecast. The ThreeNow app doesn't (you can only cast pre-recorded shows)

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#1929699 5-Jan-2018 10:47

stinger:

Gemini:

I missed the news a while back about TVNZ starting streaming their channels (including Duke)

How does the video and audio quality compare OTA vs streamed?

I'd say it is slightly better than Freeview Satellite, not sure if it is in HD as mentioned above. It's great when my single tuner PVR is recording something on one channel, and I want to watch a TVNZ channel live. The live stream also supports Chromecast. The ThreeNow app doesn't (you can only cast pre-recorded shows)

I did a comparison before Xmas of a NFL game via Duke streaming and Amazon streaming and Amazon looked way better. Amazon (Fire TV) looked like HD where as Duke (Chromecast) looked like a slightly improved SD.

Regards,

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#1929748 5-Jan-2018 11:17

stinger:

Gemini:

I missed the news a while back about TVNZ starting streaming their channels (including Duke)

How does the video and audio quality compare OTA vs streamed?

I'd say it is slightly better than Freeview Satellite, not sure if it is in HD as mentioned above. It's great when my single tuner PVR is recording something on one channel, and I want to watch a TVNZ channel live. The live stream also supports Chromecast. The ThreeNow app doesn't (you can only cast pre-recorded shows)

What I suspect is in order to lower transmission costs various things are done above and beyond lowering resolution from HD to SD to shrink things down
For this reason I also suspect that not all HD received is equal in quality ...

Makes it hard to work out which HD and audio is best

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#1929806 5-Jan-2018 12:48

tdgeek:
old3eyes:

tdgeek:

Spyware:

tdgeek:

Intersting as Sky's contract with Optus ends 2019?

Ironical if Sky, which uses 1980's tech, goes to 100% streaming like it should be in 2018, and Duke goes to 1980's satellite!

Optus contract is renegotiated in 2021 (2006 + 15 years).

I thought it was 2018, then 2019, a 10 year contract when last signed. But you seem 100% certain.

A lot of Rural can't get Freeview Over the air and need satellite which is in SD. If they want HD then Sky is their only option or are you an urban dweller who couldn't give a toss about rural??

Im not rural, FV is there for satellite for rural people. With all the anti Sky hate, its ok for them to have to use 1980's tech to deliver FTA TV to rural people? Why can FV use HD on satellite, or is that too much cost, so leave that for someone else to stump up with? If Sky got woth the play and went SVOD only then that satisfies all the haters, but then it becomes Sky's fault?

Sky could let Freeview Satellite users watch FTA HD now

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#1929849 5-Jan-2018 12:58

Brunzy: Sky could let Freeview Satellite users watch FTA HD now

That's not Sky's problem (except for Prime HD). The Freeview SD service is provided by Kordia who rent satellite capacity on Optus D1. This is separate from the bandwidth Sky use for their services (including FTA HD). Sky are not a charity!, so they aren't going to just hand over capacity to Kordia for free.

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#1929853 5-Jan-2018 13:21

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Brunzy: Sky could let Freeview Satellite users watch FTA HD now

That's not Sky's problem (except for Prime HD). The Freeview SD service is provided by Kordia who rent satellite capacity on Optus D1. This is separate from the bandwidth Sky use for their services (including FTA HD). Sky are not a charity!, so they aren't going to just hand over capacity to Kordia for free.

Thats it. Sky do provide FTA for $18 a month, cheap. But if they, based on customer demands for modern tech, and lower price points, it will be up to Kordia to improve what they currently provide. Sky may well go 100% SVOD. Or be Sport only

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#1929907 5-Jan-2018 14:56

old3eyes:

stinger:

Gemini:

I missed the news a while back about TVNZ starting streaming their channels (including Duke)

How does the video and audio quality compare OTA vs streamed?

I'd say it is slightly better than Freeview Satellite, not sure if it is in HD as mentioned above. It's great when my single tuner PVR is recording something on one channel, and I want to watch a TVNZ channel live. The live stream also supports Chromecast. The ThreeNow app doesn't (you can only cast pre-recorded shows)

I did a comparison before Xmas of a NFL game via Duke streaming and Amazon streaming and Amazon looked way better. Amazon (Fire TV) looked like HD where as Duke (Chromecast) looked like a slightly improved SD.

Far as I can tell the TVNZ1 etc stuff you can get via t' interweb only goes up to 1280x720. Were we live thats still a lot better than SD. Only stuff I've seen at 1920x1080 is Al Jazeera (from memory).

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#1931408 6-Jan-2018 17:55

I can see a couple of 'hidden' TVNZ channels on UHF Freeview - 100 and 101. Loading as SD, but no picture.

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