HG659B and Netgear R7000P on Fibre 200

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#240655 18-Sep-2018 20:51

HG659B bridge settings I need to change so I can use this just as a modem, I was advised by spark shop, to purchase Netgear R7000P as my Fibre200 hasn't been performing anywhere near what it should. using these two together without changes means 2 routers which I understand is a no no.

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#2092869 18-Sep-2018 21:01

Why don't you just use HG659b and what are you trying to achieve?

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#2092872 18-Sep-2018 21:13

Was this one provided by the store itself?

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#2092876 18-Sep-2018 21:22

I'm incredibly confused here.

You need to configure the Netgear for UFB (PPPoE, VLAN 10, Any user / pass except blank however can be the word blank if desired) - you do not need to use the HG659.

What isn't performing about it? They're very good routers and can route Gigabit totally fine.

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#2096250 25-Sep-2018 17:10

Stick with the Spark router. Spent ages wasting time trying to get better speeds with expensive netgear and linksys routers and nothing came close to the Spark router.

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#2096253 25-Sep-2018 17:21

For the R8000 there was a new firmware put out awhile back to enable CTF on vlan pppoe that made the world of difference.

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#2096254 25-Sep-2018 17:23

Yea I have an R8000 and it is now just an overpriced access point. The spark one is ok for home use. If you want more features look into pfsense.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7663912690

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#2096303 25-Sep-2018 17:29

shrub:

Yea I have an R8000 and it is now just an overpriced access point. The spark one is ok for home use. If you want more features look into pfsense.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7663912690

V1.0.4.19 has the CTF fix, Doesn't look like it's been published yet though. If your interested in trying it for the R8000, i'll ask for a copy of it since the link i had is now bad.

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#2096321 25-Sep-2018 17:42

hio77:

shrub:

Yea I have an R8000 and it is now just an overpriced access point. The spark one is ok for home use. If you want more features look into pfsense.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7663912690

V1.0.4.19 has the CTF fix, Doesn't look like it's been published yet though. If your interested in trying it for the R8000, i'll ask for a copy of it since the link i had is now bad.

Cheers for the offer but I'll stick with pfsense. The R8000 makes a great AP get 80-300mbps anywhere in the house over wifi.

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#2096765 26-Sep-2018 12:47

thanks all, re keep using the spark one. that would not solve the problem, its useless, hence the spark shop telling me to get the netgear one they sell, and spark fault techies, give me a different answer every time I speak to them, Im still waiting for a replacement one they were going to send out, when I had a heap of drop outs or no connection problems on line when settings showing I was clearly connected to wifi. A 2d one actually helped me out with a hot spot, on a day I had to be on. So ill just keep trying to sort it. Netgear R7000p actually works fine, but I do want to be able to use all features it has.

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#2096802 26-Sep-2018 13:00

So have you tried following these instructions to get the R7000 connected to fibre

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/NetgearISPSettings#sparkr7000

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#2096930 26-Sep-2018 15:43

shrub:
Cheers for the offer but I'll stick with pfsense. The R8000 makes a great AP get 80-300mbps anywhere in the house over wifi.

That’s quite rubbish. On a far less expensive Grandstream access point I can get anywhere from 400Mbit to 700Mbit depending on the device in a moderate sized house. This is why consumer grade routers are generally overpriced garbage.

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#2103627 9-Oct-2018 06:32

I wonder if I can jump in here and get some advice if the OP doesn't mind.

I've had an HG659b for several years and performance (as far as speeds go) has been OK. I had to install a couple of Netgear wireless repeaters to get sufficient coverage across the house because the fibre box and HG659b are positioned at one corner of a fairly meandering house and signal in other parts was poor. The house is wired for ethernet to every room so we are not using wifi for every connection, only for phones and tablets.

What has been a pain has been the way the router regularly packs a sad and will refuse to handle internet requests. I only just discovered tonight (/redface) that the device has a 32 device limit for connections and I suspect that we are hitting that. Right at this moment, sitting in my office in the middle of the night there are 25 active devices on the local network, and that doesn't include family phones that will join it during the day.

So I'm looking at upgrading to something that is less likely to hit a limit and stop working, while hopefully performing at least as well as the Huawei for speed and simplicity. It needs to support dual channel wifi and gigabit ethernet, but I guess that's going to be standard these days. It doesn't have to do dhcp or dns, I have a separate Linux box which handles that.

Any recommendations? Synology 2600? Netgear?

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#2103630 9-Oct-2018 06:51

Hi, check out an Edge Router, I would also recommend an Miktrotik, both have a bit of a learning curve and the Edge Router is a less painful path,

There are plenty of folk around here that can assist if you should have setup difficulties and MichaelMurfy has a good tutorial on the Edgerouter, either unit we could assist you to get up and running toot sweet.

Edit, note how I have shown non wireless routers, this I recommend, and if you need to replace wireless service where the router lives, then its better to just add another of the netgear mesh units and keep the wireless part consistent.

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#2103948 9-Oct-2018 15:30

I was going to ask where the wireless was, but it's possible that the two WAP's (they're Netgear AC1900/EX7000s) would cover the house adequately. Could the HG659b be redeployed as an extra WAP maybe?

The obvious first question (assuming I went for the ER-X or ER-X-SFP) is what plugs in to what? The HG659b has a WAN port, 4 LAN ports, and 3 phone points. The ER just has 4 or 5 LAN ports.

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#2103991 9-Oct-2018 16:13

A short intro to an Edgerouter X.

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