Stuffed routing again?

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Zanerkin

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#152367 24-Sep-2014 14:59

Last 2 weeks gone from 40-50ms on vent server to 170+

C:\Users\Zan>tracert V63.DARKSTARLLC.COM

Tracing route to V63.DARKSTARLLC.COM [118.127.0.71]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.belkin [192.168.2.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 9 ms 15 ms lo0.internet.ivpn.pe25.telstraclear.net [218.101.61.124]
4 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
5 18 ms 17 ms 21 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.251]
6 179 ms 169 ms 170 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.105]
7 144 ms 144 ms 144 ms 38.122.92.2
8 171 ms 169 ms 168 ms ten-0-2-0-3.cor01.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.242]
9 174 ms 172 ms 171 ms ten-0-0-2-1.cor02.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.59]
10 178 ms 171 ms 169 ms ten-0-5-0-0.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.199.37]
11 169 ms 169 ms 171 ms ten-2-0-0.bdr03.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [175.45.72.77]
12 168 ms 170 ms 168 ms as17462.cust.bdr03.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [175.45.73.82]
13 171 ms 173 ms 171 ms 202.60.84.170
14 171 ms 170 ms 170 ms 118.127.0.71

Trace complete .

This on vodafones end?

This is on 50/2 Cable (the old telstra one)

johnr

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#1136625 24-Sep-2014 15:21

Looks like the 6th hop is outside of the Vodafone NZ network

Frontliner

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#1136690 24-Sep-2014 16:17

It's going via USA then to AUS for some stupid reason

Ragnor

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#1136746 24-Sep-2014 17:08

johnr: Looks like the 6th hop is outside of the Vodafone NZ network

Weird US to AU routing used to pop up occasionally on Telstaclear or worse via Hong Kong.

Here's what it looks like on Voyager for comparison, peering ftw.

Tracing route to v63.darkstarllc.com [118.127.0.71] over a maximum of 30 hops:
...
3 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms ae-0-942.cr1.mdr.vygr.net [114.23.3.248]
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms xe-0-0-3-0.cr1.sky.vygr.net [114.23.3.253]
5 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms vocus1.ape.nzix.net [192.203.154.123]
6 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms ten-0-7-0-2.cor01.alb01.akl.vocus.net.nz [114.31.202.68]
7 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms ten-0-3-0-2.cor03.syd03.nsw.vocus.net.au [114.31.202.85]
8 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms ten-1-0-0.bdr03.syd04.nsw.vocus.net.au [175.45.72.73]
9 28 ms 26 ms 26 ms as17462.cust.bdr03.syd04.nsw.vocus.net.au [175.45.73.82]
10 28 ms 26 ms 27 ms 202.60.84.170
11 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms 118.127.0.71

Trace complete.

I guess Vodafone won't throw out Telstraclear's existing transit agreements till they expire but they should be able to fix route (if they want too), never had much luck with getting them to do anything about routes like that pre Vodafone, maybe JohnR can use the black helicopter to give the NOC guys a nudge.

johnr

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#1136749 24-Sep-2014 17:13

Not sure how the NOC team could help here sorry,

hio77

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#1136759 24-Sep-2014 17:26

Routes to AU on vodafone to tend to go funny every once in awhile...

snap jump onto vocus in APE, and travel over in a timely manner, so i guess its unlikely to be on vocus's side this time.

Good luck.. Routing issues can be a pain to get back to normal often.

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Coil

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#1136775 24-Sep-2014 17:30

Frontliner: It's going via USA then to AUS for some stupid reason

A certain data center was routing all Telstra traffic to USA then back for some reason. It was in relation to some game but cant remember what. Log a ticket with the host with issues and Voda.

Coil

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#1136777 24-Sep-2014 17:32

C:\Users\>tracert V63.DARKSTARLLC.COM

Tracing route to V63.DARKSTARLLC.COM [118.127.0.71]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 118-92-131-254.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz [118.92.131.254]
3 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms be7-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.226]
4 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms be8-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.225]
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms vocus1.ape.nzix.net [192.203.154.123]
6 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms ten-0-7-0-2.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31.202.68]
7 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms ten-0-0-0-2.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.199.116]
8 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms ten-1-0-0.bdr03.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [175.45.72.73]
9 30 ms 30 ms 29 ms as17462.cust.bdr03.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [175.45.73.82]
10 30 ms 30 ms 37 ms 202.60.84.170
11 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 118.127.0.71

Trace complete.

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hio77

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#1136780 24-Sep-2014 17:33

TimA:
Frontliner: It's going via USA then to AUS for some stupid reason

A certain data center was routing all Telstra traffic to USA then back for some reason. It was in relation to some game but cant remember what. Log a ticket with the host with issues and Voda.

Tribes was a common one for this.

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Frontliner

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#1137018 24-Sep-2014 22:45

Between these two hops,

5 18 ms 17 ms 21 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.251]

6 179 ms 169 ms 170 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.105]

Who decides where to route the traffic? Telstra or Cogent? Does TCL/VF decide "lets route this via cogent" or something else?