[WXC/VFX] p2p a bit slow?

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#18711 21-Jan-2008 00:02

Just signed up with flood and I find I'm getting some quite reasonable speeds on the speed tests (about 3.5meg national and 0.8 international). But p2p seems to be much slower than ihug with the same hardware etc...

Is there any shapeing on xnet?

I was getting the new ubuntu at about 50k today, which is odd considering i had a few thousand pears. That torrent should basically be clipping the connection out.

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#105889 21-Jan-2008 02:06

slashdog: quite reasonable speeds on the speed tests (about 3.5meg national and 0.8 international)

Err... 800k internationally? Déjà vu.

Xnet have always maintained they don't shape any traffic beyond the side effects of prioritisation coupled with a lack of bandwidth.

So, it's either your exchange being congested (common excuse, and just as common of a reason), not enough int'l bandwidth, or a bad seeder:leecher ratio (rather unlikely with a true Linux ISO that isn't brand new).

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#105907 21-Jan-2008 09:27

Well thats what I thought! I can fully understand the issues with regards to overcrowding, Telecom
not investing anything ever etc. etc. Its to be expected in any natrual monopoly.

But I did find after midnight my dl speed went up significantly (150kps on ubuntu)last night. This leads me to belive there is some shaping going on (Tele or Xnet?).

Interesting stuff...

EDIT RC: We call Telco's by their correct name around here. I am sure you read the FUG, and understand them too.

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#105915 21-Jan-2008 09:58

And why is this Telecom's problem? You have chosen Xnet as your ISP, so it is Xnet who have to look into this problem and solve it for you.

If you are not happy with their repsonse, then change ISP. There are other alternatives out there.

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#105920 21-Jan-2008 10:27

I guess from now on I will have set out the purpose of my posts...

The purpose of this post was to see if anyone else was having similar speeds with their correctly set up Xnet connection.

I was in no way implying that Telecom will (or should) help me with any broadband issues. The purpose of mentioning Telecom in this conversation was with regards to exchange crowding and infrastructure. I think thats obvious from my post.

shesh...

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#105923 21-Jan-2008 10:39

slashdog: I guess from now on I will have set out the purpose of my posts...

You did, and Detruire answered it.

The purpose of this post was to see if anyone else was having similar speeds with their correctly set up Xnet connection.

I guess you will have to wait and see, however if you have a read around these forums, I am sure you will get your answer.

I was in no way implying that Telecom will (or should) help me with any broadband issues. The purpose of mentioning Telecom in this conversation was with regards to exchange crowding and infrastructure. I think thats obvious from my post.

Also obvious from your post, is that you are VERY unhappy with Telecom, why else would you not call them by their correct name?

shesh...

I cannot help it if you do not call Telco's by their correct name, nor can I help it if you bring up an argument of Telecom not providing good enough infrascructure for you. Why bring up that point if you do not want them to do anything about it?

Would it not be more likely if you find your speeds increase after midnight, that there could be a lot less people using your exchange when they go to bed?
Maybe if you let us know where you are, then there may be other people on the same exchange as you, who may be getting the same problems? Or have no problems what so ever?

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#105937 21-Jan-2008 12:49

Try http://www.speedguide.net/ to analyse and optimise tcpreceivewindow. 3.5 mbps is quite low unless 4 km+ from exchange. I sync at 10.5 to 11.2 mbps and get throughput of around 9 mbps @ 2 km from exchange.

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#105939 21-Jan-2008 12:59

slashdog:
I was in no way implying that Telecom will (or should) help me with any broadband issues. The purpose of mentioning Telecom in this conversation was with regards to exchange crowding and infrastructure. I think thats obvious from my post.

Just basing from your post however it is quite clear that it is not an exchange issue, otherwise your national or speed test results would be affected. Hence the

With torrents, I would not expect to get the same speeds as a normal download as there are so many factors just with the bittorrent protocol that could influence the speed. Internet service providers can also influence the speeds too.

Remember that with wholesaled connections, all Telecom does is provide a connection to your internet provider. It doesn't have any bearing in international bandwidth as thats in the realm of the Internet provider.

Hence why 'telecon' and the post quoted below is nothing more than a poorly constructed troll. rscole86 was quite justified in the comments that he has made.

Well thats what I thought! I can fully understand the issues with regards to overcrowding, Telecom
not investing anything ever etc. etc. Its to be expected in any natrual monopoly.

FYI - we call companies by their name here.

Spyware, the sync rates that you discuss are for DSL2+. They will differ on DSL1 equipment. Additionally as you probably know, distance is only one factor when it comes to DSL connection speeds, line noise, line quality and other factors really make a difference.

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#105950 21-Jan-2008 14:01

It seems that international bandwidth is to blame rather than over crowding.

Whilst I guess my personal opinions of telecommunications companies should stay to myself, not on these forums. Trolling was not my intention, in fact in most of the circles I associate, negative views of telecom is an accepted norm, never did i expect two moderators comments. I am sorry it caused such a fuss.

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#105980 21-Jan-2008 16:52

negative views of telecom is an accepted norm

While no one is defending the actions of telecommunications companies, its important to realise that geekzone is not a telco bashing forums. Sure there have been things that companies have done which certainly deserve criticism however while it may be an 'accepted norm' in your social circles to generate "negative views of telecom", the types of negative views seen so far have been rather far fetched.

It doesn't matter whether its Vodafone, Telecom, Slingshot, Orcon or any of the other companies, bashing for the sake of bashing is frowned upon here. On the other hand, criticising a provider for the quality/price etc is open grounds, but going back to this topic, blaming Telecom for something where Telecom has no influence over is hardly considered constructive criticism.

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#106007 21-Jan-2008 20:50

After moving mum to xnet from ihug there was no noticable slowdown of torrents - 300-400k/sec overall happens frequantly across 4 or 5 downloads - thats good enough IMO, things do start to get really laggy browsing wise when its going like that so I think its the 128kb upstream choking out even tho I have uploads limited to 5kB

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#106014 21-Jan-2008 21:16

5kB a torrent, or 5kB overall?

I've run a single torrent with 10kBps up, and browsing wasn't noticably different on most pages. (Big images did load slower, and Gmail kept giving me the "longer than usual" message.)

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#106017 21-Jan-2008 21:21

Overall, downloading uses heaps of upstream as well so if I take the uploads any higher then the downloads are effected more.

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#106029 21-Jan-2008 22:18

It's Déjà vu all right.

I can't exceed 40kBps internationally for more than a second after the download starts, yet national speeds are about the same as usual.

These are higher than the actual speeds I'm getting, but still give an idea of how ridiculous this is:

And from last night:

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#106072 22-Jan-2008 09:50

Back to business!

I suspected that those international rates where a bit low. Is anyone on here using orcon or xtra that could show us a comparative speed test to Detruire? I always thought g-mail was taking a bit long to get loaded not just the torrents. Might be time to ditch xnet if the speeds are severely restricted.

Dave