SSD Migration Problem

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Pete99999

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#180732 19-Sep-2015 16:01

Hi

I have a problem. I've installed a Samsung 850 SSD hard disk into my existing computer and used the Samsung Magician (rebadged Clonix) software to migrate the Windows 7 operating system.

At the end I still left the old hard drive in the system complete with Windows 7. SO it was drive C:. The new SSD was drive I

I then restarted the PC, changed the boot order in the Bios so that the Samsung SSD was first and started the PC. At this point my troubles began.

I got an error message saying that the Windows boot loader could not find Windows and I should load my Win 7 Installation Disk for repair. I do not have these but I do have a repair disk but when I restarted the repair disk did not come up.

Then I restarted, changed the boot order back the way it was and everything started. So I am still running off my old hard disk

Should I physically remove the old hard drive that had the OS and plug the SSD into it?

Another site I looked at suggested buying Paragon Migration for $USD20

All suggestions welcome

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#1390309 19-Sep-2015 16:16

Q. Should I physically remove the old hard drive that had the OS and plug the SSD into it?

A. Yes

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#1390311 19-Sep-2015 16:17

First thought: Save your money and just re-install Windows, etc. Your computer will be better off for it, especially as Windows apparently has different settings when it is installed on an SSD.

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#1390312 19-Sep-2015 16:18

I had no end of issues with the samsung cloner compared to using the intel one. Didnt set it up to boot and I had to do a repair from a bootable windows 7 stick. It also cloned the 750 gig HDD to the 480 SSD and made the hidden partition smaller in the process which screwed up the upgrade to 10 till I resized the hidden partition larger.

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#1390358 19-Sep-2015 17:25

Upgrade to Windows 10 on old drive, then fresh install Windows 10 on new drive.

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#1390362 19-Sep-2015 17:39

Reinstall is the best advice. Alternately use Macrium Reflect Free - create an image, then push the image onto the new SSD.

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#1390381 19-Sep-2015 18:01

I have completed 3 transfers of SSD devices at this - 2 computers (laptops) but 3 changes, 2 are 'Crucial' ssd and 1 Samsung.

Inside the 'Crucial' ssd boxes is a 'transfer kit' made up of an external usb to SATA adaptor lead and some cloning software. You 1st connect the bare ssd as an external drive and run the cloning software to clone the internal drive.

When that is complete, you replace the internal HDD with the SSD drive. Easy as. Laptop now has an SSD rather than HDD and boots from it.

I used the spare Crucial drive left over as an external drive in an empty external case.

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#1390385 19-Sep-2015 18:07

use macrium free. one click, and then you're away laughing.

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#1390394 19-Sep-2015 18:31

richms: ...made the hidden partition smaller ...

Same. SYSTEM partition has to be a certain size to allow shadow copy/dual boot etc. I used MiniTool Partition Wizard Free Edition (booted from CD) to fix partitions; it can reduce size of partitions containing "immovable" files. Note the Samsung Data Migration guide says (inter alia) "... OEM recovery partitions ... cannot be replicated ..." and lists other limitations.

Pete99999

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#1390773 20-Sep-2015 21:18

Sidekick and others

I was thinking about this and I guess the logic would be:

1. Re-run the migration tool- the new drive will now be an exact replica of the old C: drive. I suspect at the moment since Windows has relabelled the new SSD as drive I, it is no longer a replica of C, so I need to re-run the migration
2. Shut down the PC
3. Open it up and disconnect the old c: drive
4. Should I then try and cable the new drive into the same SATA port as the old drive?
5. Then I guess I restart the PC. I guess if I have not done step (4) above then when I reboot I imagine I would need to select the boot drive in the BIOS. Otherwise it should find the drive

The alternative to all the above fiddling with the hardware seems to be to use Macrium Free. What do you think? Will it automatically swap the drives over?

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#1390800 20-Sep-2015 22:25

Labelling of drive letter is specific to the OS (that is currently running). It has nothing to do with the OS in your SSD. Something went wrong in the cloning process = Failed.

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#1390866 21-Sep-2015 07:16

1. Create Macrium boot disk
2. Turn off PC, put only old disk in.
3. Boot from boot disk
3. Image your C OS disk into a third disk.
4. Turn off PC, put SSD only in. Image from third disk to new SSD.
5. Boot PC.
6. Change drive letter to anything you want within disk manager, which is within computer manager.
7. Plug other disk in, if you must. Set boot order first. You'd be best off formatting it. Actually you'd be best off putting it in a drawer and never touching it.