Comparison on Vodafone 3G and Telecom 3G

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#12635 28-Mar-2007 16:25

Hi Everyone

Can you please let me know the pros and cons for Vodafone 3G and Telecom 3G in terms of cost/service/coverage/support etc

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#65280 28-Mar-2007 16:32

I guess the first thing you need to answer exactly what you want to use the 3G service for? A mobile or fixed data solution?

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#65282 28-Mar-2007 16:36

Do you want to use it overseas (need to be rich)

Do you live in 3G coverage this is handy!

There are so many differences but they all do the same in the end

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#65283 28-Mar-2007 16:38

Thank you heaps for your reply

We have 2 categories

1. People who work from home

2. People who work from home as well as on the road

So we are looking at both solutions.

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#65289 28-Mar-2007 17:17

Vodafone 3G all the way

1. Vodafone's 3G coverage speeds are 3.5mbps compared to Telecom's 800Kbps in a 3G area

Both Vodafone and Telecom's data card is $199 that is if you sign up to a 24month contract and you will get 1gb for $49.95, thereafter its $10 and they add another 1gb to your account (both Vodafone and Telecom do this)

If you are going to be in 3G areas most of the time then you can go for the Vodafone's Vodem which is $99 on a 24month Contract $49.95 for 1gb but its a USB modem so it sort of hangs out on your lap and isnt as strong in signal strength as the data cards.

A comparison has also been published by computer world website just last december.....

[url]http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/E4AF01908AA523E4CC2572440010A505[/url]

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#65290 28-Mar-2007 17:33

kwaan: Vodafone 3G all the way

Vodafone's 3G coverage speeds are 3.5mbps compared to Telecom's 800Kbps in a 3G area

What an utter load of crap! Where did you pull those numbers from? Both networks have 3G speeds of up to 3+ mbps, but real world speeds will be lower than this.

Vodafone's 3G is as follows:
UMTS: up to 384kbps
HSDPA: up to 3.6mbps

Telecom T3G:
1x EVDO: up to 2.4mbps
1x EVDO Rev A: up to 3.1mbps

HSDPA and EVDO Rev A are only available in certain areas. Otherwise you will receive the UMTS or EVDO of which EVDO is substantially faster.

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#65291 28-Mar-2007 17:39

bradstewart:
kwaan: Vodafone 3G all the way

Vodafone's 3G coverage speeds are 3.5mbps compared to Telecom's 800Kbps in a 3G area

What an utter load of crap! Where did you pull those numbers from? Both networks have 3G speeds of up to 3+ mbps, but real world speeds will be lower than this.

Vodafone's 3G is as follows:
UMTS: up to 384kbps
HSDPA: up to 3.6mbps

Telecom T3G:
1x EVDO: up to 2.4mbps
1x EVDO Rev A: up to 3.1mbps

HSDPA and EVDO Rev A are only available in certain areas. Otherwise you will receive the UMTS or EVDO of which EVDO is substantially faster.

you obviously have no idea of what you are talking about!

this is telecom's website of what speeds they offer....FYI the Rev A speed is only availaible in auckland and in some areas only.....

http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,202340-201930,00.html?text=mhp

as for Vodafone....if you are in a 3G area you will get 3.5mbps and if you are not then you will have to use their GPRS connection and will only manage 64kbps which is what telecom offers (slightly higher @ 80kbps) other wise Telecom's 3G speeds are 1100kbps.....

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#65292 28-Mar-2007 17:42

Congratulations on posting what I had already posted.

HSDPA is not available everywhere either. So in most areas you will get an average of 800 kpbs to a max of 2.4mbps on Telecom compared with an average of 200kbps with a max of 384kbps of Vodafone.

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#65293 28-Mar-2007 17:43

EVDO tends to offer better coverage when one takes in coverage nation-wide, overall better performance as well. With the release of Rev A, comparsions to EVDO from HSPDA are not really fair... Rev A vs current HSPDA implementations provide a much more balanced view, particularly with real world examples.

1X provides a much nicer fallback than GPRS so that is something you need to take into account, particularly when considering nation-wide coverage as you cannot reasonably expect 'Vodafone 3G' or EVDO coverage everywhere you go (outside of large towns/cities).

Price-wise, they are about the same.

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#65295 28-Mar-2007 17:48

kwaan:
you obviously have no idea of what you are talking about!

this is telecom's website of what speeds they offer....FYI the Rev A speed is only availaible in auckland and in some areas only.....

http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,202340-201930,00.html?text=mhp

as for Vodafone....if you are in a 3G area you will get 3.5mbps and if you are not then you will have to use their GPRS connection and will only manage 64kbps which is what telecom offers (slightly higher @ 80kbps) other wise Telecom's 3G speeds are 1100kbps.....

Really? So you are saying that all Vodafone 3G sites are 3.5mbps and that we will get it?
Lets see
The pecking order is - HSPDA
falls back to UTMS only sites...
which then falls back to GPRS.

Not all vodafone cellsites are HSPDA ready.
Remember, HSPDA was offered in only a few locations at first too!
GPRS would be LUCKY to get 64kbps. More like 30kbps.

It sounds like someone needs a reality check. And remember it is highly unlikely you'd get full speeds in the real world (and I'm not saying the Vodafone marketting/FUD world). Though comparing maximum speeds (vodafone) to real world speeds (telecom) is really looking at things in rose tinted glasses.

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#65296 28-Mar-2007 17:49

put it like this.....

i have signed up people for telecom's data card and vodafone's data card

on the same desk that customers are signed up vodafone's data card manages to putll up 3.1mbps but telecom's data card only manages 1100kbps

if you dont believe me then get hold of a vodafone card and a telecom card.....try it out at exact same location and you will notice a HUGE difference.....

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#65297 28-Mar-2007 17:57

kwaan: put it like this.....

i have signed up people for telecom's data card and vodafone's data card

on the same desk that customers are signed up vodafone's data card manages to putll up 3.1mbps but telecom's data card only manages 1100kbps

if you dont believe me then get hold of a vodafone card and a telecom card.....try it out at exact same location and you will notice a HUGE difference.....

Yes, we have - at the Geekzone moderation meeting. At the same location the Vodafone connection got 0 - no signal, despite being 3 meters from a 1800mhz site... but Telecom had full signal. Going by your logic I should proclaim that Vodafone has no data services or voice services.

Subjective tests mean nothing. A heavily loaded cell site, a non Rev A site, non Rev A card etc can all spell slowdowns etc - hence realworld examples. HSPDA is not deployed on all 3G sites, so when you compare the speeds between Rev A or EVDO... it beats the 230 odd kbps that UTMS offers. Its better to look at average performance at multiple locations, during multiple times, on multiple sites.

800-900mhz bands blow 2100mhz bands away in terms of coverage... you can't argue with that. Unless you want to install a lot of cellsites.

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#65298 28-Mar-2007 18:00

kwaan:

this is telecom's website of what speeds they offer....FYI the Rev A speed is only availaible in auckland and in some areas only.....

A simple search on geekzone reveals Rev A is alive and well down here in Wellington, ahs been for a month or so now

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#65299 28-Mar-2007 18:04

cokemaster:
kwaan: put it like this.....

i have signed up people for telecom's data card and vodafone's data card

on the same desk that customers are signed up vodafone's data card manages to putll up 3.1mbps but telecom's data card only manages 1100kbps

if you dont believe me then get hold of a vodafone card and a telecom card.....try it out at exact same location and you will notice a HUGE difference.....

Yes, we have - at the Geekzone moderation meeting. At the same location the Vodafone connection got 0 - no signal, despite being 3 meters from a 1800mhz site... but Telecom had full signal. Going by your logic I should proclaim that Vodafone has no data services or voice services.

Subjective tests mean nothing. A heavily loaded cell site, a non Rev A site, non Rev A card etc can all spell slowdowns etc - hence realworld examples. HSPDA is not deployed on all 3G sites, so when you compare the speeds between Rev A or EVDO... it beats the 230 odd kbps that UTMS offers. Its better to look at average performance at multiple locations, during multiple times, on multiple sites.

800-900mhz bands blow 2100mhz bands away in terms of coverage... you can't argue with that. Unless you want to install a lot of cellsites.

3 meters from 1800mhz site and no signal is bs.....i am sure you guys didnt had it properly connected.....either way hamilton is a different story.....vodafone is much much better.....better signal and better speeds all the way for vodafone.....

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#65300 28-Mar-2007 18:11

kwaan: 3 meters from 1800mhz site and no signal is bs.....i am sure you guys didnt had it properly connected.....either way hamilton is a different story.....vodafone is much much better.....better signal and better speeds all the way for vodafone.....

Could you be any more trollish?

I was there, there was no VF signal. It was Mauricio's phone, I'm sure he knows how to use it, unless you are calling him incomptent?

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#65301 28-Mar-2007 18:15

bradstewart:
kwaan: 3 meters from 1800mhz site and no signal is bs.....i am sure you guys didnt had it properly connected.....either way hamilton is a different story.....vodafone is much much better.....better signal and better speeds all the way for vodafone.....

Could you be any more trollish?

I was there, there was no VF signal. It was Mauricio's phone, I'm sure he knows how to use it, unless you are calling him incomptent?

3m from a site and no signal.....its NOT possible
you would be surprised at the simplest level of mistakes techies can make.....

edit - A PHONE?

how the hell did you guys manage to connect a data card with a phone????

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