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#129491 17-Sep-2013 22:27
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Hi Geekzone,

I moved to a small New Zealand ISP just over 6 months ago, I like the idea on always dealing with the same people when I had trouble and they were business focused so that was prefect for me.

After having a few issues with the the service not being setup correctly the service ran perfectly for the first 2 months.

Not only that but their customer service was outstanding, so because of that I recommended them to everyone I work with.

Then after that I started to have a very unstable connection, high pings and normally getting around 50% of my sync speed as through put.

That kept going for almost 3 months until it got to the point where I could not use my connection for a three weeks.

I use this connection for working from home every evening and in the weekends doing web design work, though the connection was apparently usable during the day. No one was here to test it and every night we would be getting over 50% packet loss.

It was impossible for me to work and had to end up moving to a 3G solution until it was resolved. 

Everyday I would check it when I got home from work, I had had enough by this point and wanted to leave.

They said they wanted a month to resolve this issue and they would credit me for all the time I was unable to use my connection for.

They managed to resolve it and my connection is working better then ever, which I am very happy about.

I paid all my invoices up to date as we had agreed and was advised the credit would be on my next invoice.

When the next invoice was generated, it was generated with a late payment fee already on it and no credit for the downtime.

I contacted my ISP and heard nothing back.

I then had to chase them up for over two weeks to try and get it resolved, ringing up there support and being told I would get a call back from my account manager.

Finally I get an email saying $35 has been crediting off my account, its something but it does not cover the time period I was offline.

I then asked if I could call and discuss this over the phone, and as they know this is always my preferred method of contact.

I was told that I couldn't call and there word was final, but I just had some queries about it which they are refusing to answer.

I signed up with this Small ISP because I value strong customer service and they were very good to deal with at the start.

No I feel like I am fighting and loosing battle, not only that but I people I recommended are very frustrated. Always being ignored and not having their questions answered.

Is there anything I can do as they are not part of the TDR (Telecommunication Dispute Resolution)?

Or do I just have to bite the bullet and pay the contract break fee?

Thanks in advance for your feedback :)

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  #897286 18-Sep-2013 00:22
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Who are they? They may participate here, and you may then get an acceptable solution.

If not write them a letter. Phone maybe your preferred mode of communication, but as you don't have a paper trail it can make things difficult to provie as to who said what. When dealing with service providers I almost always prefer to email so I have everything in writing, and there is no confusion or gray areas.



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  #897290 18-Sep-2013 01:43
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For starters, who are they? And where are you based? It sort of sounds as if you're on a rural connection which is connected to a Conklin, mind posting some speedtests and your router stats (go into your routers web interface and screenshot us the sync rate, attenuation and anything else related to the xDSL line).

If you're connected to a Conklin or an ASLAM there's really nothing they can do to improve your speeds, but this all comes down to what ISP you're with too. My parents are on Unleash since they're rural and for some odd reason from experience it seems to work far better than other ISP's, they were on Snap before and got quite high pings and slow throughput and to this day I still don't know why (on average through Snap they got 3mbit) - I don't know if Chorus have a separate profile for business connections, maybe somebody can clear that up with me?



Unleash are a bit more expensive but offer excellent customer support and speeds. My parents are on an ASLAM, their line syncs at the max ADSL1 allows and they very rarely see any congestion but results may vary. First let's figure out what kind of DSLAM you're on and how your cabling is.




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  #897298 18-Sep-2013 06:09
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Thanks for the reply.

I will post my modem stats and a speedtest when I get home today, however I am not having speedtest issues anymore.

Is issue I am having is with the lack of support / customer service.

The company is called Full Flavour Media and I am in the CBD in Auckland.



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  #897303 18-Sep-2013 06:52
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Jesse Archer is on geekzone. Maybe he can help?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/user_public.asp?user_id=59679

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  #897307 18-Sep-2013 07:17
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Jesse is my account manager and he very clearly said he would not speak to me over the phone.

I do get frustrated sometimes but I have never been abusive or anything like that over the phone, I just can't understand why I cannot talk to someone about this.

I really feel like there is nothing else I can do apart from put up with support that I am not happy with.

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  #897308 18-Sep-2013 07:36
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You need to post your modem stats...





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  #897311 18-Sep-2013 07:57
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I will post my modem stats tonight when I am back at home but I am not long having any speed issues.

The issue I am having is lack of customer service, and by that I mean them refusing to discuss this over the phone with me.

The whole reason why I moved to a small company was to be able to call up and talk about any issues I had, not having to wait hours on the phone like you do with the bigger ISPs.

 
 
 

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  #897315 18-Sep-2013 08:11
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Geekzone has a high ranking in Google, this thread will probably appear when people search for terms like full flavour media ISP reviews and problems. Especially now I wrote it in the thread like that.

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  #897333 18-Sep-2013 08:50
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From what you've posted, it sounds like a pretty poor attempt at customer service - particularly when you've gone with that ISP for the purpose of higher level of service and support. Even how long the fault dragged on for is poor.

Personally, based on what you've said, I'd walk. I'd even dispute having to pay any sort of early termination charge due to the long term issues and lack of proper compensation. $35 for what sounds like 4 months of poor or no connectivity?

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  #897407 18-Sep-2013 09:38
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Personally, based on what you've said, I'd walk. I'd even dispute having to pay any sort of early termination charge due to the long term issues and lack of proper compensation. $35 for what sounds like 4 months of poor or no connectivity?


That credit is only for 3 weeks of poor or no connectivity, which I still believe is low considering I pay just over $125 per month.

I am not wanting any compensation for the other 3 months, though the service was running how I would have liked it I was still able to use it for everything I needed most of the time.

I guess I am reluctant to leave because the first few months were so good and I am always hoping it will get back to that point, though I am loosing more hope every day.

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  #897418 18-Sep-2013 09:44
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Scripture:
Personally, based on what you've said, I'd walk. I'd even dispute having to pay any sort of early termination charge due to the long term issues and lack of proper compensation. $35 for what sounds like 4 months of poor or no connectivity?


That credit is only for 3 weeks of poor or no connectivity, which I still believe is low considering I pay just over $125 per month.

I am not wanting any compensation for the other 3 months, though the service was running how I would have liked it I was still able to use it for everything I needed most of the time.

I guess I am reluctant to leave because the first few months were so good and I am always hoping it will get back to that point, though I am loosing more hope every day.


If your service was in an unusable state for 3 weeks, and you pay ~$125/month, I would've expected something like $80 - $90 credit at least, so that you aren't charged for the period the service was unusable.

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  #897458 18-Sep-2013 10:30
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If your service was in an unusable state for 3 weeks, and you pay ~$125/month, I would've expected something like $80 - $90 credit at least, so that you aren't charged for the period the service was unusable.


Yeah I think there reasoning behind it was that the service was still working during normal business hours, which I can sort of understand however this is my home connection so I only use it outside business hours.

Just disappointed I couldn't discuss this over the phone so I didn't feel like I just pushed away for asking questions.

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  #897468 18-Sep-2013 10:40
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Is that $125 for broadband only or does it include other services?
The reason I ask is I don't think it is reasonable that a customer get 3 weeks of credit on the portion of a cost which is not related to the fault. e.g. if $50 of that $125 is phone and the remaining $75 is broadband then 3 weeks of the broadband portion is reasonable.




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  #897484 18-Sep-2013 10:58
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Jaxar: Is that $125 for broadband only or does it include other services?
The reason I ask is I don't think it is reasonable that a customer get 3 weeks of credit on the portion of a cost which is not related to the fault. e.g. if $50 of that $125 is phone and the remaining $75 is broadband then 3 weeks of the broadband portion is reasonable.


I pay $125 for Naked VDSL, there is no point line or VoIP included.

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  #897562 18-Sep-2013 11:55
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Scripture:

I pay $125 for Naked VDSL, there is no point line or VoIP included.


Cheers for the clarification.




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