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#28153 20-Nov-2008 12:01

Hi People,

Anyone know of an ISP that’s based in Christchurch?? I had Telstra clear hi speed cable but now I’m moving into an area with no connection to that, so I’m moving to an ADSL connection but going from fast to not so fast is going to be frustrating. I need a local ISP so I can get some good speeds, all the main company’s have servers in AK which is pretty slow stuff. Any ideas ????????

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#179044 20-Nov-2008 12:14

Yep Snap Internet discussions and praises can be found there (or complaints)

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#179645 23-Nov-2008 16:15

Why does it matter where the ISP is based?

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#179952 24-Nov-2008 16:51

i don't think it matter's its more like how far you are from an exchange/cabneit , because i was down in dunedin and was using my mates BB they were with Telecom Xtra and they had no propblem's

So i guess you can choose anyone you want and Should get the same service as any other ISP

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#180100 24-Nov-2008 22:59

rygrass Correct me if I'm wrong but most service providers that resell chorus wholesale have their main and usually only POP (Point of Presence) in Auckland (such as Xnet). So yes while exchange distance is important, for latency location also matters. After hitting the exchange all traffic must flow to an ISPs router/connection before being sent out into the wild web. This can increase latency, especially when coming back to Chch. Snaps a great choice, they provide the bandwidth for UC so you know their international connection is decent (always debateable but there reviews are mostly positive). Telecom (27 or so local POP's isn't it?) and Telstra both have POP's in Chch so after the exchange your data does not have to flow straight to Auckland.

I personally have just switched to Telecom Explorer in Chch and have had excellent speed and performance, with pretty decent latency with interleving turned on.

Than ofcourse its all about international connections but thats another issue

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#180104 24-Nov-2008 23:13

Going with SNAP is no wrong... as Christchurch City Council is using them as the ISP. Also SNAP has TCL and TNZ for their big fat pipe to the WWW!

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#180110 24-Nov-2008 23:31

Going with Snap would save you maybe 10ms on a ping to a SNAP server. Pretty insignifcant imo.

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#180143 25-Nov-2008 09:12

Thanks people,

Looked into snap and yes they have fibre to canterbury uni, run christchurch council plus they are based in Riccarton which is a stone thow away from were are new place is and we have an exchange only 0.25 KM away .... On top of all of this there are the same price as Telestra Clear (with land line) and offer 15GB more

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#180153 25-Nov-2008 09:52

Oh small mistake ... Its $10 more than telestra, but you still get 15GB more .... so still a pretty good deal!!

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#180175 25-Nov-2008 11:36

miniman: Oh small mistake ... Its $10 more than telestra, but you still get 15GB more .... so still a pretty good deal!!

Good choice matey, can you post a speedtest result or two when you are connected so we can see what sort of speed you get? Its a bugger about the cable network in Riccarton, when I lived there we were literaly the last street to have access to it before the end of the network.

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#180431 26-Nov-2008 14:22

Hey Peolple,

Just discoverd speedtest.net (yep I know I'm alittle behind the times) but just wondering anyone who know's what ISP use's FX networks. I found Inspire.net does, but they are based in parm north ... any in ChCh ??? And also while i'm hear does any one know what network Teletra clear use?? I'm alittle confused on the speedtest globe results, can anyone explain why we have these ISP's that I have never hear of or why pleople like Vodafone aren't on these results??

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#180433 26-Nov-2008 14:38

miniman: Just discoverd speedtest.net (yep I know I'm alittle behind the times) but just wondering anyone who know's what ISP use's FX networks. I found Inspire.net does, but they are based in parm north ... any in ChCh ??? And also while i'm hear does any one know what network Teletra clear use?? I'm alittle confused on the speedtest globe results, can anyone explain why we have these ISP's that I have never hear of or why pleople like Vodafone aren't on these results??

Why does it matter where the ISP is based? This is what confuses me... I'm in Auckland and I use Snap who are based in Christchurch - it works a charm.

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#180448 26-Nov-2008 15:33

Yep that's because Snap have a server based in Auckland and christchurch. If your are getting internet from a ISP in AK and you live in Christchurch, you are going though copper from CHCH to AK and back (some parts of nz have fibre exchtanges). If your server is down the road the conection will be quicker due to less copper to go though. From the ISP onwards to the web all the rest should be firbre (if the ISP is good), thus I wish to be near an ISP.

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#180452 26-Nov-2008 16:07

Hi miniman.

As you will see from a large number of discussion here on GZ, there are a lot of variables that will affect your internet throughput speed.

Having your ISP located in the same region as you may have some minimum effect on latency to your ISP's services such as email, usage meters. However this is only a very small direct effect seeing as ISPs generally use fibre optic technology to connect different parts of the country together, and there is negligable difference in real terms between transmitting a web page 10KM or 500KM or 1000KM.

Also, some ISPs may have a distributed topology in that a customer located in auckland may not necessarily have his/her data routed via an ISP's headquarters in Christchurch - but that would depend on the ISP's setup (eg, Chorus has a number of Points of Presence around the country, as does a number of other ISPs, such that traffic does not have to 'trombone' via Auckland before getting to your ISP).

What is more likely to affect your throughput are things like line condition, distance to exchange, exchange contention, ISP national/global bandwidth, ISP peering policy, ISP/customer equipment quality and so on. Most of these things are just as likely to affect you if you live 10KM or 1000KM from your ISP's headquarters. The only consideration I would give to your idea is perhaps if your ISP had poor national backbone data provisions, then it could be an issue to live further away.

For example: if your Christchurch-based ISP had 1000 1mbps Customers in Auckland and 1000 1mbps Customers in Tauranga and 1000 1mbps customers in Christchurch, they may have the 2000 North Island customers share a single 500mbps pipe to Christchuch but might have a seperate pipe for the christchurch customers, depending on their backbone arrangements and network topology, therefore the customers in the North Island may need to contend for the throughput at a greater ratio than the Christchurch customers, just due to the nature of population dispersion. Even then, it may be that they have a single 500mbps pipe coming into their HQ, such that all the customers nationwide receive the same throughput.

If you were using highly time sensitive enterprise applications, such as IP-SAN storage technology or live database replication for example, then you would want to take distance between sites into consideration, however for the types of applications that consumer ISP connections are designed to handle, distance-to-ISP makes little to none direct difference given the relatively small size of New Zealand.

EDIT: De-generalised a couple of things before people pounce on me

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#180470 26-Nov-2008 16:50

Thanks for that mushion22, you just inlighten me some more ... how I love learning!!

So this means I have a larger ball park to play with?? Coming from cable, what do you recoumend the fastest ADSL would be?? and going back to my perivous question (due to would like to understand fully) "I'm alittle confused on the speedtest globe results, can anyone explain why we have these ISP's that I have never hear of or why pleople like Vodafone aren't on these results" ??

Thanks for your time :-)

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#180474 26-Nov-2008 17:11

ADSL Provider - I dunno. I have had cable for the past couple of years. SOme people above say snaps good, but I would just say have a look around the forums - theres loads of "What ISP" threads.

The speedtest: There are a few different speed test sites, some owned by ISPs, others hosted by ISPs, and others independent of ISPs. Can I assume you are talking about www.speed-test.net?

If so... that site is one that has machines hosted at a lot of ISPs around the world. People can also connect to them from a large number of ISPs or business networks.

When it comes to the "ISP" that is stated in the speed test statistics, it doesn't necessarily corresspond to an actual ISP. It usually reflects the network from which it came from. For consumer connections, this "network" would typically be your ISP. However with a larger business, they may own their own "network," (eg, if I did a test from my work, it would say my "ISP" is MyCompanyName rather than the ISP that my company buys national/internation connectivity through. Some businesses may also connect through an ISP which does not sell directly to consumers (eg FX).

Its a little bit tricky to explain here - it gets quite technical about how the internet is structured and how to define a unique "network." But generally, consumers and small businesses buy a connection into their ISP's network, and the ISP has outward connections for all it's customers to other ISPs and other networks around the world, perhaps via other ISPs. However big businesses might have enough machines to essentially have their own network with it's own unique name, and work out their connections around the world themselves via one or more other ISPs or networks.

Hope that's not too confusing. Have a look on wikipedia for more info about how the internet and ISPs work.