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mancave

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#165578 13-Feb-2015 19:39
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Hi fullas
Just built new house and sparky set up home network with cat6 and signet st2205.
He isn't really a network guy and assumed I would get someone in. That would be like asking for directions so I wasn't having any of that.

Found myself that wiring diagram, figured out I needed a ST555 VDSL filter and invented a punchdown tool in the shed with a dremel and grinding wheel.

Picture below so you can see I wired it up right and aren't a retard.

DSL works fine (or I wouldn't be able to be on internet right now...) but phone lines have no signal.

I live in wops and only have ADSL right now, (VDSL one day maybe, never fibre). I googled and figured out a VDSL filter works on ADSL. Difference is a VDSL isolates the DSL signal whereas an ADSL filter only filters the DSL noise out of the phone lines, leaving the DSL as is. (according to google).

There is a dialtone from the test socket, and the router socket (? doesn't make sense given how VDSL filter supposed to work).

No dialtone on phone sockets, and DSL doesn't work on phone sockets.

I've run out of things I can fiddle with. Double checked punchdowns and even stripped wires to ensure contact.

Security switch is off (older ST2206 needed jumpers I think, tried this too)

My next plan was to take an old ADSL filter to the shed and invent an inline filter and see if that works, but I can't see that would make any difference.

Stumped. Asking for directions. My man-ness has suffered and the wife is on my case cos she wants a phone!!!

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  #1237714 14-Feb-2015 03:01
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Security switch in the right position? Didn't have that on the last one I did, had to jump past it manually.




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  #1237730 14-Feb-2015 08:00
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Yeah tried all of above and looping alarm ports.
I'm thinking the splitter must be a dud. No idea how to test this theory.

Can anyone confirm VDSL splitter works fine with ADSL?



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  #1237759 14-Feb-2015 08:59
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mancave: Yeah tried all of above and looping alarm ports.
I'm thinking the splitter must be a dud. No idea how to test this theory.

Can anyone confirm VDSL splitter works fine with ADSL?


A VDSL2 splitter should work with ADSL.

I would recommend taking out the splitter and bridging the port with your incoming phone line. Unplug the phones form the line and see if the Internet comes up  (this is manually isolating the phones and they are not plugged in!). This should help you to determine if it is your splitter or not.

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  #1237776 14-Feb-2015 09:49
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I'm pretty sure that stripping the wires is pointless; connection is made on punchdown as the sleeve is pierced by the metal inserts (holds them in place nicely too).
And yes, I can't see any reason why a VDSL splitter wouldn't allow you to use an ADSL service, though my knowledge of the actual wiring involved is minimal.
Best of luck brave adventurer!

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  #1237783 14-Feb-2015 10:02
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Welcome to geekzone, mancave. I love your user name. laughing




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  #1238826 14-Feb-2015 12:04
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ArcticSilver:
mancave: Yeah tried all of above and looping alarm ports.
I'm thinking the splitter must be a dud. No idea how to test this theory.

Can anyone confirm VDSL splitter works fine with ADSL?


A VDSL2 splitter should work with ADSL.

I would recommend taking out the splitter and bridging the port with your incoming phone line. Unplug the phones form the line and see if the Internet comes up  (this is manually isolating the phones and they are not plugged in!). This should help you to determine if it is your splitter or not.


There is only a test phone plugged into the panel, and the router, nothing else.

Sparky had done this initially (bridged from phone in to phone out), so phones worked but needed to plug router into a phone socket and needed DSL splitters on every phone socket.

I disconnected the blue phone wires from the splitter and bridged the phone-in (orange) to the phone-out (blue) (leaving orange and green wires in place) and dialtone is restored to the phone sockets, but with DSL noise (as expected).

VDSL splitter must be a dud I think. Going to try an old ADSL splitter and see if that works, and if so send the VDSL splitter back.


 
 
 

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  #1238834 14-Feb-2015 12:33
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Punch the blue pair from splitter down onto DSL, then see if phone works on modem port.




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  #1238878 14-Feb-2015 13:40
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Had already tried this.

VDSL splitter appears to send phone signal straight through to DSL wires. Nothing comes through phone wires.

It must be the splitter. Tried an old ADSL splitter wired in and works just fine. 

Will be taking the splitter back to the wholesaler.





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  #1261869 18-Mar-2015 18:08
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Follow up on this.

Eventually got a replacement VDSL filter. Works fine now. Filter was a dud. Not my fault. My man-ness is restored. Steak and beer for dinner.



  #1261871 18-Mar-2015 18:10
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at least you know

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