Cat6 keystone and face plate advise needed

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art3011

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#205012 26-Oct-2016 15:53

I am going to run cat6 cable from one end of the house to the other end terminating them with keystone jacks and face plates. I have access to under our house. I know what cable to buy, but I am confused with the many options for keystones and faceplates.

Searching on PBTech:

1. There is a Dynamix cat6 keystone RJ-45 for 110 face plate. There is a 90 degree jack and a 180 degree jack. What is the difference?

2. There is a Dynamix UTP keystone jack type 110, and there is a Dynamix RJ-45 keystone face plate horizontal mount. Again, what is the difference.

Your explanation and advise is appreciated. Better yet, just tell me what to buy.

TIA

cynnicallemon

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#1658312 26-Oct-2016 16:06

You should pop along to somewhere like Cory's or J A Russell's where you can have a chat, see for yourself and get everything you need in one go.

chevrolux

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#1658343 26-Oct-2016 16:29

Yep Cory's or JA Russell (or Active Electrical if it is in your area will be better than both of those). But just grab a single gang PDL 600 plate, and a couple of PDL 619MD's

DarthKermit

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#1658351 26-Oct-2016 16:38

My advice would be to get some 3 or 4 gang PDL plates and fill the unused holes with blank modules. That makes it a trivial exercise to install more data outlets at a future time.

cynnicallemon

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#1658352 26-Oct-2016 16:42

DarthKermit:

My advice would be to get some 3 or 4 gang PDL plates and fill the unused holes with blank modules. That makes it a trivial exercise to install more data outlets at a future time.

Yeah, especially if you have enough spare cable, where you have a run the run two (or more) cables - mainly for future expansion of devices or just a safeguard against a socket/cable problem.

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#1658416 26-Oct-2016 18:08

As above, but I bought the Cat6 keystone jacks in packs of five from trademe, for a lot cheaper.

art3011

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#1658721 27-Oct-2016 08:57

Thanks heaps. I should be looking at electrical instead of computer sites. Going to J A Russell's and Cory's this Saturday.

afe66

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#1658802 27-Oct-2016 11:00

I found the electric hardware suppliers worth a visit even if it costs more.

Bloke there pointed out other gear/suggestions to help me. I didn't know what I didn't know. Ie little plastic boxes I screwed into the stud on to which the faceplates were attached. Advice about drill bits etc.

Many close at mid day on Saturday..

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art3011

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#1665837 8-Nov-2016 16:27

Is there any building code that dictates how far a data communication(ethernet, cat6, faceplate) should be from a powerpoint. I will be running cat6 cable under the house and would not be in parallel to a power source.

trig42

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#1665841 8-Nov-2016 16:36

I'd always put the plate on the other side of a stud to a power outlet (or on a completely different stud).

DarthKermit

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#1665853 8-Nov-2016 16:40

art3011:

Is there any building code that dictates how far a data communication(ethernet, cat6, faceplate) should be from a powerpoint. I will be running cat6 cable under the house and would not be in parallel to a power source.

Not sure about a building code, but it's considered good practice to separate extra low voltage cables (data, phone, tv, speaker) by 300 mm when running parallel to 230 volt cables, if you have to cross them over each other do it at right angles. The different types of cables shouldn't share the same holes through walls.

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#1673532 18-Nov-2016 12:15

art3011:

I am going to run cat6 cable from one end of the house to the other end terminating them with keystone jacks and face plates. I have access to under our house. I know what cable to buy, but I am confused with the many options for keystones and faceplates.

Searching on PBTech:

1. There is a Dynamix cat6 keystone RJ-45 for 110 face plate. There is a 90 degree jack and a 180 degree jack. What is the difference?

2. There is a Dynamix UTP keystone jack type 110, and there is a Dynamix RJ-45 keystone face plate horizontal mount. Again, what is the difference.

Your explanation and advise is appreciated. Better yet, just tell me what to buy.

TIA

You will only see the 110 type, you need the Cat6 one. 180deg is easier because you can use the faceplate to hold the jack steady. Don't get the dynamix faceplates they are crappy. Get a PDL one with a separate keystone clip, decide which orientation you want to mount the plates on the wall and then put the clip in to match it. Then buy some suitable length patch leads to connect your devices etc.

EDIT: you also need to get the 110 punchdown tool.

Time to find a new industry!

webwat

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#1673542 18-Nov-2016 12:23

DarthKermit:

art3011:

Is there any building code that dictates how far a data communication(ethernet, cat6, faceplate) should be from a powerpoint. I will be running cat6 cable under the house and would not be in parallel to a power source.

Not sure about a building code, but it's considered good practice to separate extra low voltage cables (data, phone, tv, speaker) by 300 mm when running parallel to 230 volt cables, if you have to cross them over each other do it at right angles. The different types of cables shouldn't share the same holes through walls.

Theres definitely an electrical code, and its also specified in the "premises wiring standard" and TCF standard. 50mm separation between wires unless there is a fully enclosed barrier; we normally slit a piece of flexi and slide it over the offending cable. If there are bare wires like at the electrical terminals, the distance is more but cant remember. Setting the faceplates 50mm apart is normally done because outlets are often on opposite sides of a stud inside the wall.

Time to find a new industry!

throbb

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#1673579 18-Nov-2016 13:42

cynnicallemon:

DarthKermit:

My advice would be to get some 3 or 4 gang PDL plates and fill the unused holes with blank modules. That makes it a trivial exercise to install more data outlets at a future time.

Yeah, especially if you have enough spare cable, where you have a run the run two (or more) cables - mainly for future expansion of devices or just a safeguard against a socket/cable problem.

I agree, if you have the cable run an extra, it can save so much time in the future.

sparkz25

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#1685453 9-Dec-2016 18:46

Ideal Russells corys active or simpsons are your best bet, PDL 600 series and a 144mt flush box will do but as has been said you need the correct jacks as most are cat5 not cat6 so make sure you get the correct jack and a punch down tool, 300mm is the minimum distance as stated by the regs.