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LAJ

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#285791 18-May-2021 10:56
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I have just built a little greenhouse in Christchurch and I want to be able to extend growing season by using plant lights and some kind of solar or passive heating to slightly raise night temperature in the middle of winter.  I am a complete dummy when it comes to electricity ( I had 3 different teachers in sixth form physics who all taught me mechanics but ran out of time for electricity) so I am confused with all the discussions on volts , amps, watts  converters, types of plugs etc when I look at products available. Particularly when I look at say aliexpress or other overseas sites for grow lights I don’t know what they are compatible with.

 

I thought if I get some kind of energy store and solar panels like a camping set up it could also double as a back up for lights and cellphone charging for the house in a power cut. I like the option of being able to top up with mains power in the gloomiest part of winter if it isn’t charging enough with solar so I need to be able to move it from the greenhouse to the house for overnight charging (or run a lead to it?). Or so I can bring it inside in power cut to use in the house. 

 

lighting seems feasible with LED nights not using much power  but what is the best way to keep a greenhouse a little warmer over night in winter?  I just want to have the ability to say grow tomatoes in autumn and spring and winter over plants normally found further north like tamarillo citrus, maybe banana ? . Here we get frosty nights frequently in winter and I keep killing things!

 

It has concrete pad floor so I’m thinking adding a layer of insulation then paving over it? Maybe water barrels painted black to absorb sun light and radiate back at night? Or enough solar energy to run a low wattage panel heater through the coldest hours of the night? or some way of keeping water barrels slightly warm over night?  Or is that too much to expect?

 

I really need a list of products I can hook together that will work together as I am totally lost when I start reading the technical posts on solar.

 

Thanks!


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  #2708906 18-May-2021 11:12
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Warming a greenhouse is going to take a lot of power, mains power, whereas lights are easy. I think you should give up on warming it. I built mine backing onto a shed and with a concrete floor to give thermal mass, but that's just a buffer. If it gets a lot of sun I suspect cooling it will be more of an issue than heating it. I have tomatoes growing in mine in Wellington now, still budding, flowering, etc.

 

Mains power will be easier than solar, batteries, etc.




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  #2708915 18-May-2021 11:19
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Ok thanks. I was only thinking to keep it a few degrees warmer than currently but perhaps you are right. It is much colder her overnight than Wellington on a frosty one.  I guess so long as it is above zero on a frosty night things will hobble through the worst of winter but might not thrive. 

 

do you have any ideas for solar system to do lighting? I was going to get some grow lights which are sort of pink lights with wavelengths which plants require to grow to extend daylight hours. 

 

as for cooling it has opening windows all around but I might need a solar powered fan too in summer heat!


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  #2708924 18-May-2021 11:48
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You'll either have to find a kit or make something custom. By the time you get a decent size solar panel, regulator, battery, wiring, and 12V lights I think it'll get pretty expensive. Running a mains cable and plugging in some ready made lights from somewhere would probably be cheaper and easier, if the location of the greenhouse makes sense. I looked into it a while ago and gave up on it. I just grow stuff appropriate for the season.




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  #2709471 19-May-2021 08:58
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Ok, thanks. What are your winter night temperatures like?


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  #2709505 19-May-2021 10:33
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We hit zero occasionally. Wellington temp stats here.


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