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#93076 13-Nov-2011 17:39
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7th September 2011 - I emailed Orcon to say that Telstraclear had been in touch with them recently letting them know i had moved my home phone and internet services away from them and that i had not heard anything from them so could they make sure that my services were discontinued and that i was keeping my mobile services with them for the time being.

Received automated reply from Orcon stating it is taking around 7 days before i would get a reply.

11 September - Received reminder from Laura in credit services - I replied to Laura saying that i had been emailing but had had no replies except for the automated ones saying it would be around 7 days for a reply so could she please make sure my homeline and broadband services were cancelled - I did NOT receive a reply from Laura

15th September - 8 days later - Received reply from Orcon saying they have no record of of any notification from Telstraclear so they have taken 30 days notice from the 29th of August and that i will be billed up until the 28th of September

17th September - I got in touch with Telstraclear requesting confirmation that they had in fact been in touch with Orcon and they emailed me with the confirmation that they had done so on the 19th of August with the reference number used - I then emailed this through to Orcon

23rd September - Received invoice - I was credited for the broadband services and not charged for the homeline services so this invoice is absolutely correct

18th October - One Month Later - Reply received from Orcon saying The last billing date has been changed to the 16th of September and that broadband charges after this date have been credited and that they have requested for the homeline charges to be credited as well and that this credit would show up on my next bill (this would be the bill dated the 23rd October)

23rd October - Received invoice - Charged again for homeline services at $43.48 - grrrrrrr - I tried to reply to this email to tell them that they had it wrong only to receive another automated email but this one said that this query has now been closed

27th October - I emailed them telling them to cancel my mobile services now as i have had a guts full of their crap service

10th November - Received email from Orcon to say that due to the 30 day notice period they are charging me up until the 27th of November  - I tried to reply to this also telling them they are only meant to be charging me until the 27th of November for my mobile services as the homeline and internet services had already been cancelled and my last billing date for those was the 28th of September. I then received the 'this query has now been closed' email.

The same day i went onto the website and sent a new query to open a new case

I put a post on their Facebook page only to have it and myself deleted - i had not sworn i had asked them to stop ignoring my emails and requests for my account to be sorted

 



I am really sick of all the back and forth emails that i have had to send in order for them to get this right - it's not hard and they are just ignoring me now by closing the queries straight away. I am sure they are sick of hearing from me but there is no way i am paying for something i do not have. Reading through all the facebook posts from angry customers is so disheartening that there are so many people out there being ignored by Orcon and not receiving the service which they are entitled to and paying for. When we owe them money they are straight onto us and then will threaten those that are a little overdue with being sent to Baycorp but at the same time ignore us customers when we are trying to get hold of them.

Don't really know what to do next

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  #544845 13-Nov-2011 17:47
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Kurious1: 
Don't really know what to do next


This; http://tdr.org.nz/ if someone from Orcon doesn't help you here on Geekzone.

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  #544847 13-Nov-2011 17:53
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Awesome thank you for that i will definitely be using them as the problems run a fair bit thicker than just what i have written on here

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  #544848 13-Nov-2011 17:53
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The TDR process requires a specific set of steps. Basically you must lay a formal complaint to your ISP and if there is no resolution then you can escalate.

Steps here.




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  #544851 13-Nov-2011 18:01
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Thanks i will wait and see what their reply is to me after my last email and if they still can't get it right then i will follow the procedures. I know i am just one of the many many customers having these same issues.

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  #545009 14-Nov-2011 10:04
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Hi there,

Firstly - sorry for all the troubles you've had trying to get your account sorted out. Can you please send me a PM with your account details (user name or account number) and any ticket numbers that you have for emails that you've sent in. I'll check it all out myself and get back to you.

Cheers,

Cam

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  #545568 15-Nov-2011 11:48
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Orcon support and Customer Service is indeed the worst I have ever seen it, When I joined they were great but since running into issues I also have been shocked at the lack of accountability and genuine action to help their customers.

I have waited up to 90n minutes in call queues and been passed around their system like a h-h-hot potato that no one wants to help.

Sorry for your troubles mate, sounds like I have the same coming as I am about to jump to another ISP.

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  #545722 15-Nov-2011 19:31
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Cam has sorted this for me but i have said to him "please forgive me but i will not believe it 100% until i see that last invoice.

Thanks Cam for your help

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  #552026 30-Nov-2011 22:21
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Right i got my invoice and i have quite a decent sized credit on it - emailed Orcon and then emailed Cam through here - no reply from either since last week - different story though when a customer owes Orcon huh - Have just been reading through the Orcon facebook page again and am just soooooo disgusted that soooooo many people are having such bad issues with them - they need to be shut down - Cam please reply to me and give me MY money back and don't give me the 'you have to wait until the next refund day' BS as i am fully aware of the 'special circumstances' rule

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  #552030 30-Nov-2011 22:33
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Kurious1: Right i got my invoice and i have quite a decent sized credit on it - emailed Orcon and then emailed Cam through here - no reply from either since last week - different story though when a customer owes Orcon huh - Have just been reading through the Orcon facebook page again and am just soooooo disgusted that soooooo many people are having such bad issues with them - they need to be shut down - Cam please reply to me and give me MY money back and don't give me the 'you have to wait until the next refund day' BS as i am fully aware of the 'special circumstances' rule


Dude you need to tone it down you will get no respect if you go about speaking to anyone the way you are!  How do you know Cam is not on holiday or on a course for a week?

If you emailed them last week you should give them 5 business working days approx to reply and if it's urgent call them!

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  #552034 30-Nov-2011 22:39
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Do not tell me to tone it down - i have put up with a couple of years of crap from Orcon - i want my money and i want to see the back of them for good. They have shown me no respect whatsoever.

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  #552039 30-Nov-2011 22:44
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Kurious1: Do not tell me to tone it down - i have put up with a couple of years of crap from Orcon - i want my money and i want to see the back of them for good. They have shown me no respect whatsoever.


And you are showing Cam no respect either by the way you are ranting on after he has helped you,

it's posts like yours that put good staff off helping online,

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  #552040 30-Nov-2011 22:44
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Oh and one of my emails telling them for the 3rd time that they were charging me for services i didn't even have took a whole month for them to reply and they just kept closing the query without resolution.

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  #552041 30-Nov-2011 22:45
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Kurious1: Oh and one of my emails telling them for the 3rd time that they were charging me for services i didn't even have took a whole month for them to reply and they just kept closing the query without resolution.


Well then keep the emails you have sent and go down the TDR path

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  #552046 30-Nov-2011 23:02
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Kurious1: Oh and one of my emails telling them for the 3rd time that they were charging me for services i didn't even have took a whole month for them to reply and they just kept closing the query without resolution.


Treat people as you would expect to be treated yourself. People do get worked up by ISPs and helpdesks, but it is one of the most thankless jobs for pretty poor pay. I am sure that over time it will get sorted, but it can take time, and it is not as though it is a matter of life and death, in the grand scheme of things it is pretty trivial. Take a breath and give them a few weeks to get back to you. If you haven't heard anything, ask for a deadlock number and then go to the TDR.

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  #552054 30-Nov-2011 23:20
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Just wanted to mention that I had the exact same problem. Switched from Orcon to Telstraclear and the following happened:

1. Orcon "forgot" to cancel my services and kept billing me three months after leaving, even after repeated phone calls/emails telling them I've moved providers.

2. Had to call them 7 times now to get my 3 months worth of charges refunded.

3. Finally got through to a senior manager who said things should be sorted this week, so fingers crossed.

It's not difficult to get fed up, and it was a real challenge to keep calm talking to the CS reps who genuinely did not seem to care. I would suggest you file a claim in either the disputes tribunal (with the correct invoice showing the credit) or follow the other suggested steps.

Good luck!

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