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rapt

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#97792 20-Feb-2012 18:56
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I called up to get some more room on the server because my e-mails were not downloading due to the server being full.

I asked the guy for an extra 20mb, he said it was done I then said I will just check to make sure my e-mails are coming down now and he said it will take about 5min to take effect and ended the call.

 

I then discovered my e-mails were not working after the call and neither was my webpage.

Called back and the technician told me the last person that I talked to had deleted my entire account. He said he would try and restore it and would call me with an ETA on when it would be back up. (I gave him my updated cell number)

After hearing nothing for about 5 hours the store came back up and it was a copy from July last year.

I called back up again, I asked if they could get a more recent copy of the store back up and they said it was not their problem as they do not offer backup as a service. I asked again if they could at least have a look and he said there was no point they would have restored the most recent copy they had. He put me on hold for about 20 seconds and came back and said that it was the most recent copy they had. They way the guy spoke to me was like he did not really care and was not interested at all in trying to restore the page.

The last backup I did was about  1.5 months ago, usually I backup every month. So I have lost 1.5 months worth of customers accounts, orders, updates to the website, stock levels,  new products as well as 3 days worth of e-mails that were sitting on the server because it was out of room!

Anyway I am not happy that that can just accidently delete my account, then keep me in the dark about when it was going to be back and finally the last guy I talked to was very rude and did not want to look in to it at all.


Not a happy customer. 

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mattwnz
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  #584111 20-Feb-2012 19:06
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rapt: Not a happy customer.?


You can change provider if you are not happy. I would suggest using a host that does daily backups and also has an archive of backups that you can roll back to. eg, say you want to roll it back to a week ago. Although they will usually charge you a restore fee. Finding a host that doesn't have set diskspace quotas may also help so you have got lots of room and don't have to pay for more diskspace. Often hosts will lock your database if you go over the quota, to prevent it getting corrupted, causing the website to stop working. Having your email storage separate from the web hosting would also be recommended. Email me if you need help.



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  #584119 20-Feb-2012 19:15
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Most important lesson here is: BACKUP. It's your business, not theirs.




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  #584179 20-Feb-2012 21:15
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rapt, can you please PM me your account details, I can have one of the engineers take a look and see what is going on.

I am very sorry to hear what is going on, I will make sure its looked into if you can provide some detail.

Paul




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  #584203 20-Feb-2012 22:07
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ptinson: rapt, can you please PM me your account details, I can have one of the engineers take a look and see what is going on.

I am very sorry to hear what is going on, I will make sure its looked into if you can provide some detail.

Paul


Paul you rock.

but you must really be getting tired of addressing all these examples of incompetent performance by Orcon/Kordia/iServe customer services that come up on Geekzone.

/rhetorical question

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  #584227 20-Feb-2012 22:31
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Switch to a better hosting provider. Seriously 20MB increase in mail space? I would be thinking 20GB these days lol.

Have a look at:

sitehost.co.nz
web-2u.co.nz
webslice.co.nz 




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#584236 20-Feb-2012 22:37
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not surprised.  

at least, we can get good services on geekzone. Cool

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  #584318 21-Feb-2012 08:29
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Ragnor:
ptinson: rapt, can you please PM me your account details, I can have one of the engineers take a look and see what is going on.

I am very sorry to hear what is going on, I will make sure its looked into if you can provide some detail.

Paul


Paul you rock.

but you must really be getting tired of addressing all these examples of incompetent performance by Orcon/Kordia/iServe customer services that come up on Geekzone.

/rhetorical question


/rhetorical answer

If i can help then I am happy to do so.
We are running a large amount of training for the hosting helpdesk at the moment which includes examples like this where we clearly could be better at what we do.

I will certainly be talking to the trainer today to include this example of what not to do.

I absolutely encourage feedback, its just a shame that when it gets to this sort of issue we really do appear to have dropped the ball and that is not good. So I do what i can to rectify that.

Paul




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rapt

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  #588554 29-Feb-2012 21:06
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I have decided to move my site to a server that does daily backups (thanks for the suggestion mattwnz) . I always back up once a month and before I do any changes to the site but you do not expect that your provider will delete your site.

freitasm: Most important lesson here is: BACKUP. It's your business, not theirs.


It should be their business to ensure that your site can't be accidently deleted and to be able to provide backup if they did delete it.

ptinson Thanks for contacting me and restoring my site to early Feb, this is much better than when I called up and they guy said they could not do anything about it and it was the latest backup.
Although it would have been nice if you had called me first because when you restored the site to early Feb it wiped out a couple of customers orders and accounts from the day you restored it that I can no longer get back.

It is also a pity I had to come on this forum to get support rather than using your call centre.

I have moved my site www.ledbulbs.co.nz to http://www.flexihost.co.nz/ they do daily backups are priced about the same but I now get 5GB rather than 170MB, for anyone looking for a web server I would really recommend them, they went out of their way to help me migrate my store to their server and provide great support. They can also able to provide support with opencart as well.

Ross


         


     




    

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  #588587 29-Feb-2012 22:00
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Hi Ross I am sorry you were not contacted, I did ask for that to happen before it was restored so I am sorry that wasnt done.

I fully understand why you are moving.

Our sites are backed up daily, however there was corruption on some of these. We found the reason for this and made changes to how the sites are backed up as well as the monitoring for daily backups so we can mitigate this form occurring.

None of that helps you now of course so i can only apologize for the service you received.

Paul




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  #588592 29-Feb-2012 22:06
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Also, offsite backups are important!

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  #588594 29-Feb-2012 22:09
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Indeed they are, this is done but also being reviewed.




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  #588598 29-Feb-2012 22:13
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kyhwana2: Also, offsite backups are important!


They are, although your own backups are probably as good as offsite, and often hosts will not do offsite ones every day.

I did suggest to the OP to get a host that does daily backups, but it is also important that the the host either keeps an archive of those backups say for 2 weeks, or they also do weekly and monthly backups too. Just doing daily backups that overwrite everyday, can be worse that just having weekly backups that overwite weekly. This is because, say your website is hacked, and you only notice 2 or 3 days after this has happened, then you may not be able to restore that data , as the only backup they may have could have been overwritten with the hacked website. This is if the host doesn't also do other backups, or they keep an archive. Many hosts, mainly the cheap ones, only do daily backups that overwrite each day. Also look out for high data restore fees, which some of hte cheap ones charge..

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