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  #1299296 6-May-2015 17:53
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steve98:
dafman:
steve98: What makes it commercially sensitive? The only competition worth worrying already has Chromecast support.


I agree, it seems very strange- not exactly the sort of information that would require commercial sensitivity? You'd think Spark would be happy to publish a road map for intended device roll out and timing? As mentioned previously, the only thing I can think of is the possibility an initial exclusivity agreement with Samsung? If so, maybe not the best strategic move with hindsight.


That's a very good point. Samsung's exclusivity-in-exchange-for-free-app-creation is the scourge of development in this country. Lazy, cheap broadcasters selling their online futures for the price of an app. Pathetic.


given we don't know the terms of any such agreement it's really hard to say.

One thing we do know is that samsung is the market leader in smart TVs by a significant margin.  If you were launching any sort of service like Lightbox they would be the first Smart TV manufacturer you would go with

So with that in mind,  if you were Lightbox (or Quickflix, or Neon or whoever) imagine samsung presented you with a contract that said

"We'll pay for the app to be developed for our range of devices if you give us exclusivity for 6 months. BUT if you don't take this deal we will refuse to allow your app on our devices at all"

so whilst you might not like the first part (exclusivity)  if the alternative is to not have your app on samsung devices at all (which make up something like 50% of all smart TVs), I think most people would still take it

Remember that Samsung smart TV apps aren't like google play - it's not open to anyone who wants to make an app.  You either do it with their blessing, or not at all.






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  #1299299 6-May-2015 17:56
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Don't ever buy a TV based on the smart features, as they can be removed at any time. At least don't pay extra becuase i t has smart features. People are better to buy an addon box like a firetv, apple tv and or chromecast.

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  #1299347 6-May-2015 19:13
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dafman:
dafman:
Lightbox: Our legal team is working hard developing our Chromecast support.

Announcement to follow very shortly.


Any chance you can define 'shortly'?

Previously you have referred to 'soonish'

Is 'shortly' better than 'soonish'?  

Is 'shortly' or 'soonish' better than 'when hell freezes over'?


Apology to Lightbox, I'd had a couple of Upper Hutt's finest Panhead when typing last night, should have toned it down a bit.


Does anyone else here respond to people saying they'll be a few minutes with "give me a capped numeric estimate range"?




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  #1299391 6-May-2015 20:10
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compost:
dafman:
dafman:
Lightbox: Our legal team is working hard developing our Chromecast support.

Announcement to follow very shortly.


Any chance you can define 'shortly'?

Previously you have referred to 'soonish'

Is 'shortly' better than 'soonish'?  

Is 'shortly' or 'soonish' better than 'when hell freezes over'?


Apology to Lightbox, I'd had a couple of Upper Hutt's finest Panhead when typing last night, should have toned it down a bit.


Does anyone else here respond to people saying they'll be a few minutes with "give me a capped numeric estimate range"?


When a few minutes goes to 10 minutes plus, I do.

If answer is I'll be a few more minutes, then since the first ones ten minutes plus, how long is a few more lol.

Good to see progress being made. Have got it going good on iphone, and look forward to end of month, when should be able to use with chromecast after application update.

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  #1299419 6-May-2015 20:27
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Lightbox: We launched iPhone and Android phone apps last night, as well as opening up our tablet build to all Android devices.

Chromecast support will be coming in the next update for both iOS and Android, scheduled for later this month.


Complained on twitter about this...but will repeat here too....

I added the app to my kids tablet and set the profile to theirs which restricts content to PG on. Works fine.  Then you restart the tablet, or kill the app and open it again its defaulting back to the default profile (which is for me).  Sigh....no content restriction.  I know, I think, I'll set my account to have restricted content and set up another for me to have unrestricted and use the PIN to change profiles when I need to. Nope - default profile settings cannot be changed.

This seems ridiculously obvious to me (I do work in IT though) and I cannot believe the applications do not retain the selected profile.  Makes a complete mockery of the content restriction settings.

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  #1312539 27-May-2015 10:40
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huckster: Nearly the end of the month....


Every week I seem to get an email from Lightbox asking why I'm not using it and I replay that I'm waiting for Chromecast support and they always replay that it's coming soon / end of month.  Not sure which month though.

 

"Thank you for your reply,

 

We are currently in the final stages of testing and hope to launch Lightbox on Chromecast by the end of this month."




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  #1312551 27-May-2015 10:52
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old3eyes:
huckster: Nearly the end of the month....


Every week I seem to get an email from Lightbox asking why I'm not using it and I replay that I'm waiting for Chromecast support and they always replay that it's coming soon / end of month.  Not sure which month though.

"Thank you for your reply, We are currently in the final stages of testing and hope to launch Lightbox on Chromecast by the end of this month."


I have just received 3 months free Lightbox to say thanks for being a Spark Mobile customer, I have used it once on my Tab S although it did crash during the session. Now if it were on Chromecast or Xbox One I would use it more.
The need to extricate digits and get moving on supported devices or they will lose to Netflix if they haven't already lost. I would dearly love to support a local initiative but they make it just way to hard.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.


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  #1312581 27-May-2015 11:06
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We have had some emails also, since getting an extra Chromecast for our second TV the family have deserted Lightbox completely, in fact Sky use has gone down drastically also

Across the global Netflix catalog everyone in our household is finding plenty to watch

I fear that Lightbox might be fighting a uphill battle on a very slippery slope with such a fragmented approach to the market

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  #1312599 27-May-2015 11:19
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Can confirm, parents have netflix and lightbox (spark deal) , a chromecast and a smart tv (the tv can play lightbox) at this point they dont use lightbox at all but they seem addicted to the chormecast+netflix option.

Really do want lightbox to succeed but the device limitations are really showing up now, even a definite date intead of some time soon would be helpful

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  #1313467 28-May-2015 13:43
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Killerkiwi2005: Can confirm, parents have netflix and lightbox (spark deal) , a chromecast and a smart tv (the tv can play lightbox) at this point they dont use lightbox at all but they seem addicted to the chormecast+netflix option.

Really do want lightbox to succeed but the device limitations are really showing up now, even a definite date intead of some time soon would be helpful


Well, they have said in a few places, this month, the end of the month. So only three more sleeps.....

 
 
 

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  #1313658 28-May-2015 19:04
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I caught the nuance of "scheduled" for the end of the month, which is more information than promise.

But if this slips into June, people will be able to claim that half of their free year on Spark has been wasted, do they really want that message out there? 42% is plenty bad enough




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  #1314032 29-May-2015 12:10
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compost: I caught the nuance of "scheduled" for the end of the month, which is more information than promise.

But if this slips into June, people will be able to claim that half of their free year on Spark has been wasted, do they really want that message out there? 42% is plenty bad enough


What does the 42% refer to?

I'm about 3 months into my free year. Have yet to watch one item. Have pretty much given up on LB, so unlikely to chase it up now even if support for TV eventually arrives.

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  #1314092 29-May-2015 13:11
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Normally we all say YAY ITS FRIDAY!!.
Lets all hope this saying changes today, and we say YAY ITS LIGHBOX IS NOW SUPPORTING CHROMECAST DAY! Come on LIGHTBOX!!






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  #1314150 29-May-2015 14:35
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Something for the weekend.... Lightbox?

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