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#1721 16-Jun-2004 15:40
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I have a Motorola V525; I want to access the internet from my laptop while
travelling. So what i understand is that you can use the bluetooth
technology to enable communication between the phone and the laptop.

Now, my phone is using the GPRS gateway; I have heard three things:-
* The speed will be the same speed as my WAP browsing (then the
connection will be real slow on my laptop)
* When using GPRS you could go up to 33.6Kbps.
* GPRS will connect @ 115.2Kbps but will give you download speeds about 56K

From what i understand the phone must've a built in modem; and it'll be the
same speed for both WAP and browsing Internet via bluetooth. BUT then what's
the point??? it will be real slow as WAP pages are like 1/10 the size of
real pages and still the phone has to send and recive data for about 20secs.

IF SO; what speed is the modem in the V525, IF NOT; Which one of the three
statements above are correct; IF NOT could some pls. resolve my problem
(BASICALLY, What's the speed of the V525 modem??) as Vodafone New Zealand
has no idea.

Thanx alot. All help appreciated.

Radith


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#6604 16-Jun-2004 15:49
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I think 3 will be closest to the right answer, the speed should be similar to a 56K modem and very usable for web browsing. It worked great for me in the USA surfing/email via bluetooth(T68i) on my powerbook with GPRS (T-Mobile).

You don't need to use your phones modem unless you want to dial in to a 'normal' ISP like xtra or paradise. You'll use Vodafone's GPRS network on your laptop via bluetooth - make sure you know the pricing 'cause it isn't cheap for casual data.







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#6605 16-Jun-2004 15:56
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The Motorola V525 is a Class 10 GPRS device (2 up/4 down). Actual connection speed will vary depending on distance from the tower, how many voice calls are being processed in that tower, how many data connections, etc. You can't compare the WAP speed with the speed you'll see when connected to GPRS via cable or Bluetooth. In general terms you'll feel the same as in a dial-up connection. Speed should be around 46kbps, even though the maximum is above this limit (171.2kbps), but networks do not implement this.

When you write 33.6kbps and 115.2kbps it seems to me you're talking about the speed between the terminal and the modem. This is irrelevant. In case of Bluetooth connections, the available speed is far higher than the GPRS speed you'll get.

Believe me, it's different from WAP. Remember that WAP uses the phone processor to render pages and these are not the fastest things in the world... I use GPRS on my Pocket PC Phone Edition, on my laptop and don't have a problem. Just remember that it'll be as fast as dialup.




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#6608 16-Jun-2004 17:34
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I've always been surprised at the fact that GPRS with my laptop is quite usable, but WAP is abysmally slow despite the fact that WAP pages are so much smaller than HTML pages.

It seems that the handset manufacturers really need to beef up their processors.



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#6610 16-Jun-2004 23:09
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wow wow... take that back, dialling xtra with cell phone???

i already have an xtra account. I could connect to that over mobile phone?
How would that work, any extra charges, its a flat rate plan.

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#6611 16-Jun-2004 23:13
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Don't go there... Maximum speeds for HSCD on GSM is 9.6kbps. Being a circuit switched connection (GPRS is a packet switched connection), this is charged on a per minute basis. Not much different on CDMA.

Sometimes during emergencies I use a Mobile Connect Card to dial-up to a RAS server at work. Since I'll be using TELNET from there, 9.6kbps is ok, but nothing else.




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#6618 17-Jun-2004 07:47
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actually 9.6 wouldn't be a major problem. I would only be using it in very specific circumstances (where I can deal with the speed).

You say it's charged per minute, is it charged at your phone end (ie: takes money off your prepay). How much is it, isn't the xtra number 0873 03030 a free number?

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#6619 17-Jun-2004 07:55
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It's charged on the calling number. I don't think the 0867 prefix is available to any mobile operator.




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#6641 17-Jun-2004 16:14
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0867, the xtra number is 0873...

I'm just wondering whether it would work and how much it's gonna cost me. For my uses it might very well work out cheaper than GPRS. If it works, how do i set it up?

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#6655 17-Jun-2004 22:05
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Data should be enabled by default on your mobile and you'll be charged the CSD rates (listed on the Vodafone site) or standard prepay rates if it's a prepay connection.

The maximum rate supported in NZ is 14.4K with a CSD connection, any phone from the last few years will support this, older phones will only do 9600.

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#6658 17-Jun-2004 22:54
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so GPRS is probably a better option then...

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