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#5095 27-Apr-2004 10:29

Once again there will no MMS support in this product due to the cost of creating software and development to make it work, also Telecom do not want a phone that uses a plug in camera

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#5097 27-Apr-2004 10:45

in which product? the Samsung A591 ???
it's a small monochrome wap1 phone. - no MMS because it was never intended to be a MMS phone. nothing to do with any telecom NZ decisions

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#5099 27-Apr-2004 10:54

Sorry i was talking about the GTRAN 4020. Also at this stage there are no plan to get a new model from GRTAN.

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#5100 27-Apr-2004 11:00

the network wasn't ready at the time that gtran cindy launched.
there's very little markey in clipon cameras - better to focus the time and $$$ on getting some decent camera phones like the nokia 6225. which i think launches this week.

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#5102 27-Apr-2004 11:03

There are no products in the future that will support bluetooth at this stage.

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#5103 27-Apr-2004 11:06

yes, and that really bites.
I have a cdma phone - but i also keep a second GSM with BT and GPRS because you just can't do that on telecom
in fairness, the blame rests with qualcomm.
There's been a couple bluetooth phones come through testing but they've failed miserably and would have been a nightmare to support - hence no bluetooth phones on telecom NZ

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#5104 27-Apr-2004 11:11

The 6225 is not due to launch for about another 3 weeks.
Some points to note , the screen quality is not that good when taking photo's however they are 640x480 pictures and when sent they look at good as the TX95c

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#5105 27-Apr-2004 11:13

The Qualcomm chipset in the newer phones support bluetooth. however Qualcomm requre the handset manufacture to license the feature at a cost , and at this stage the CDMA markets that CDMA handsets are sold in global are not big on bluetooth , hence why there is not many handset around , and even less that Telecom can get there hands on

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#5106 27-Apr-2004 11:15

something i don't understand
they Hyundai says the image is 640x480
but the images it takes are square..
how can the be 640x480 ( a rectangle) if the images are actaully a square???

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#5108 27-Apr-2004 11:18

The TX95c screen display is adjust and the aspect ratio is changed to display it on the handset , however when sent to a email account a 640x480 photo appears

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#5109 27-Apr-2004 11:18

yes, the blame for cmda suckiness rests with qualcomm
real phone manufacturers (like nokia and ericsson) cannot make a cmda phone without sending substantial amount of money to their competitor - qualcomm. Nokia have made a few cdmas recently, but i think sony-ericsson have stopped.
the result is most cdma phones are made by companies that never made a cellphone until a couple years ago when cdma was born.
hence there was many 027s with half baked software, bugs, and missing features.

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#5111 27-Apr-2004 11:26

Sony-Ericsson has stop making product for outside the US , as they said it is to much hard work to make phones work on all the different types of CDMA networks,
Also you will find that there is just as many bugs in GSM handsets as there are CDMA, however when bugs are found the operator and manfucture look at the pro and cons of release the handsets to market and sometimes decide that the bugs are not big enough to out wieght the delay to market

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#5116 27-Apr-2004 11:34

can you give some examples of some bugs in GSM phones. (in compatiblities with networks and so forth)..

there is also a healthy grey import market too that you won't find on telecom phones.

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#5118 27-Apr-2004 11:38

The reason you can not import phones is Telecom policy see http://www.telepermit.co.nz/nl137.html#sec3

The is not so much network related problems with GSM as there a GUI problems as with CDMA handset, Most bugs in handset are in there GUI

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#5129 27-Apr-2004 12:22

The cdma bugs i know are not GUI - they're usually functional (the phone turns off when you answer a call)
or missing a crucial feature (like no caller Id on sms)
also the many flavours of protocals and platforms such as MMS means that telcos need to choose a platoform or go all out and duplicate systems.
for all i know the same problem may exist in GSM, but it doesn't seem to be as much of a stumbling block for vodafone.

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