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DrDee

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  #1582483 29-Jun-2016 10:27
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I don't know if I am being clear enough.

 

 

 

I accept that if the power is disconnected for normal reasons (length of time, safety, etc) and requires a fee for re-connection, obviously, no argument from me.

 

My point is that in the specific scenario where the power is disconnected over bad debt from the previous occupant, why should the re-connection charge be paid by the next tenant where if that debt hadn't happened that new tenant would not have had a charge to pay at all?

 

I guess I am looking at it like if you went to the servo and filled your car up and then went to pay, only to find an extra fee on there because the last person who used that pump drove away without paying.

 

The issue is the power company have a blanket policy that doesn't consider the human element of the circumstances, it is not a fair system and I would expect that a lot of people have paid for a re-connection where they probably shouldn't have normally if the previous person managed themselves better.

 

Yes I could chase up the previous tenant and try in vain to recoup that cost, but in reality shouldn't that be the power companies responsibility to chase up and recoup any and all costs relating to that customers power use/account including any fees related to the account being in arrears?




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  #1582495 29-Jun-2016 10:51
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Because you want to have power, so it should be paid to get it connected.

 

The connection cost is not the previous tennants problem, the cost of power they used and disconnection are their problem.

 

As the landlord has to ensure that there is power, the cost should fall on them. Perhaps you can try to get that cost from the last tennant, but really its just a cost of having an investment property.





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  #1582501 29-Jun-2016 10:57
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Power connection belongs to the Owner of the house and you are letting the tenant use the power over it. 

 

I suppose the power company assumes the Owner of the house has a tenancy bond that they can use to recoup any disconnection fees from?

 

 

 

You could push back on this with the Power Company to trace the person responsible for Bad Credit. 

 

By doing this you might be in a situation where they cannot reconnect you until they claim their money using their own means - example: debit collectors?

 

 

 

It sounds unfair on the face of it but that is what the bond is there for so it makes the process easy for the owner. 




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  #1583161 30-Jun-2016 09:55
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Bigger bond next time....






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  #1583163 30-Jun-2016 09:57
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Geektastic:

 

Bigger bond next time....

 

 

You cant, also you cant add on pet bonds or others which is why so few places allow pets. Silly over regulation of rentals.





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  #1583174 30-Jun-2016 10:26
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richms:

 

Geektastic:

 

Bigger bond next time....

 

 

You cant, also you cant add on pet bonds or others which is why so few places allow pets. Silly over regulation of rentals.

 

 

I'm not a landlord but when I have rented properties I have seen a wide variety of bond amounts so I had assumed it was entirely at the landlord's discretion how much the bond would be. Would be interested to know the legal situation—is there any legalisation over how much bond landlords are able to ask for?

 

I agree that a bigger bond would be a good idea next time though (assuming that's allowed of course!).

 

- James


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  #1583217 30-Jun-2016 10:37
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KiwiSurfer:

 

richms:

 

Geektastic:

 

Bigger bond next time....

 

 

You cant, also you cant add on pet bonds or others which is why so few places allow pets. Silly over regulation of rentals.

 

 

I'm not a landlord but when I have rented properties I have seen a wide variety of bond amounts so I had assumed it was entirely at the landlord's discretion how much the bond would be. Would be interested to know the legal situation—is there any legalisation over how much bond landlords are able to ask for?

 

I agree that a bigger bond would be a good idea next time though (assuming that's allowed of course!).

 

- James

 

 

 

 

How much bond can a landlord ask for?

 

 

 

Residential Tenancies Act 1986, ss 18, 18A

 

  A landlord can ask for bond that is equal to up to four weeks’ rent. They can’t ask for any other form of security in addition to his bond, such as a security interest in your car.

 

http://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-15-tenancy-and-housing/rent-bond-and-other-costs-chapter-15/

 

 

 

 


 
 
 

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DrDee

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  #1583238 30-Jun-2016 11:17
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jonathan18:

 

KiwiSurfer:

 

richms:

 

Geektastic:

 

Bigger bond next time....

 

 

You cant, also you cant add on pet bonds or others which is why so few places allow pets. Silly over regulation of rentals.

 

 

I'm not a landlord but when I have rented properties I have seen a wide variety of bond amounts so I had assumed it was entirely at the landlord's discretion how much the bond would be. Would be interested to know the legal situation—is there any legalisation over how much bond landlords are able to ask for?

 

I agree that a bigger bond would be a good idea next time though (assuming that's allowed of course!).

 

- James

 

 

 

 

How much bond can a landlord ask for?

 

Residential Tenancies Act 1986, ss 18, 18A

 

  A landlord can ask for bond that is equal to up to four weeks’ rent. They can’t ask for any other form of security in addition to his bond, such as a security interest in your car.

 

http://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-15-tenancy-and-housing/rent-bond-and-other-costs-chapter-15/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, we charge 4-weeks for bond, you are stupid not to charge the maximum allowable. Last tenant cost me close to $5k and so many hours of my own time and outside of small claims there is bugger all I can do about it. The media always portrays landlords as 'slumlords' but everything is weighted towards the tenants, you are at their mercy to not destroy your investment :(


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