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#2248805 30-May-2019 22:41

esawers:
Can anyone recommend a Smart smoke alarm?

A boerboel. Added benefit is that it also doubles as a smart burglar alarm.

esawers:
Edit: The main purpose would be alerting us of a problem if we are out of the house.

On, in that case you need a neighbour, possibly in addition to the boerboel.

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#2340834 19-Oct-2019 22:06

Cavius New Zealand, now have the Home Hub listed.

https://www.cavius.co.nz/our-products/hub/

Don't know a price yet. (154 Euro in Europe)

They must be operating on an approved frequency here now.

(I notice it is listed with a suffix of 002 here vs 001 in Europe)

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#2340852 19-Oct-2019 23:02

I bought the Cavius hub and their new smoke alarm and heat alarm along with motion sensors and door/window sensors. It works really well. App is free to download and no subscription required. I bought mine through JA Russell so it was cheaper but retail price of home hub is $199.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#2342782 24-Oct-2019 08:04

The Cavius Hub has been installed.

The app is one of the best I have come across. It is very well done.

With pictures of what to do to add devices etc. Alerts work etc.

I'm impressed so far.

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#2342824 24-Oct-2019 09:43

First Choice:

We currently have two main powered Nest Protect alarms installed and these are excellent.

I purchased these via Amazon.co.uk to get the 240 volt mains versions (amazon.com sell the 120 volt mains version). The NZ available devices are the only battery powered models.

The chief benefit of the main powered units being that they act as automatic night-lights and light up when they detect movement.

However, due to the Amazon / Google squabble and I'm trying to opt for Amazon with possible....

Second Choice:

We're having a new house built and we liked the 'Wireless' solution from Cavius. But this doesn't like Alexa and is also not compatible with the control system we're installing to govern everything else.

Third Choice:

I've resigned myself to the smoke alarm solution chosen by the provider of the control system.... don't have any details at the moment.

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#2342931 24-Oct-2019 11:23

We have 2 x Nest protects in our house

Ours are also linked into our Phillips hue lights so if they go off they turn all the lights on in the house and also turn them all red as red is supposed to be a better light to navigate in a smoke filled area.

They are expensive yes but you cannot put a price on your families safety imo.

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#2342938 24-Oct-2019 11:47

JaseNZ: ...snip... red is supposed to be a better light to navigate in a smoke filled area.

This caught my attention - do you have anything further to explain this at all? Having spent long periods of my working career doing things under red light I can assure you that white light is infinitely better. You'd also expect if it was true, firemen would all carry a red torch for working in smoke-filled or burning buildings, and having been a volunteer for more than 17 years, I can tell you we don't - white light is much better.

You'd be much better off putting lighting in down at knee-height, as that's where the clean and safe air is, long after the smoke has blacked out any ceiling lights.

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#2342967 24-Oct-2019 12:17

Ge0rge:
JaseNZ: ...snip... red is supposed to be a better light to navigate in a smoke filled area.

This caught my attention - do you have anything further to explain this at all? Having spent long periods of my working career doing things under red light I can assure you that white light is infinitely better. You'd also expect if it was true, firemen would all carry a red torch for working in smoke-filled or burning buildings, and having been a volunteer for more than 17 years, I can tell you we don't - white light is much better.

You'd be much better off putting lighting in down at knee-height, as that's where the clean and safe air is, long after the smoke has blacked out any ceiling lights.

Have read it in a few places, I could be completely wrong though, Agreed re the fireman but the lights in the house are static and not movable.

https://www.larsonelectronics.com/blog/2017/11/21/emergency-flashlight-lights/smoke-penetrating-technology-what-light-works-best

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#2343029 24-Oct-2019 14:16

Slight threadjack here.

We too are interested in smart smoke alarms, but we also want to get smart alarms with cameras.

Whats considered the best option here? We don't currently have any home hub stuff.

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#2343067 24-Oct-2019 15:28

No sure they do any with Camera's built in, We have nest camera's that compliment our smoke detectors so if the alarm goes off and we are not home we can see what is happening.

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#2343398 25-Oct-2019 09:51

esawers: ....The main purpose would be alerting us of a problem if we are out of the house.

Smoke alarms are early warning devices to get you out of the house. If you're already out of the house and you want to do something about the fire then smoke alarms are NOT what you need.

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