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#2587865 19-Oct-2020 16:51

@neb I spoke to the guy at Parkwood Doors and he also suggested the Duramax but said it would need to be painted which didn’t appeal because the driving wind, rain and sun combined would have us painting every year. He suggested aluminium with 4 bolt lock to hold the door in because we have a problem with our other door being sucked outwards in high wind and needed extra stays to clamp it to the frame. Conditions here are at the high end of extreme and like living on a ship in a hurricane.

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#2587889 19-Oct-2020 17:31

neb: The aluminium is going to kill you, that's the most expensive door type you can get. You can get a decent solid-core external door for $500-800 depending on whether you want to have glass in it or not.

If the door is getting wet each time it rains, then aluminum is possibly going to be more durable. They also have drains built in to the frame.

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#2587890 19-Oct-2020 17:33

PVC is another option. Multipoint locking, durable, PVC is used in preference to aluminum in many many countries.

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#2587896 19-Oct-2020 17:43

timmmay: PVC is another option. Multipoint locking, durable, PVC is used in preference to aluminum in many many countries.

Any recommendations for PVC door types? Hadn't seen those before.

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#2587900 19-Oct-2020 17:50

Eva888:
neb: The aluminium is going to kill you, that's the most expensive door type you can get. You can get a decent solid-core external door for $500-800 depending on whether you want to have glass in it or not.

It’s very exposed to sun as well as rain, so warping can be a problem, and the other even more exposed external door we have which is aluminium is leak free so that’s why I’m changing from wooden. I think the problem is a mix of frame plus door shrinking and moving over time.

A friend has suggested someone to quote who was miles cheaper for him than all the big companies so will share that if it’s better.

The problem has grown and the floor on one side seems to have rotted as it felt springy. Wondering if State Insurance would cover that damage. Any thoughts?

Do you have a photo of the side of the house that the door is in?

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#2588000 19-Oct-2020 20:31

neb:
timmmay: PVC is another option. Multipoint locking, durable, PVC is used in preference to aluminum in many many countries.
Any recommendations for PVC door types? Hadn't seen those before.

They're fairly similar to aluminium on the inside, steel frame and multipoint locking, but instead of using powder coated aluminiumwhich is a fantastic conductor of heat they're clad in white PVC - and rarely other colors. The PVC lasts decades, never needs painting, and if you get something on it you use jif or sand it slightly. The cost about the same as thermally broken aluminium. There's mention of providers here and there on Geekzone. I used Thermalframe who were good, but slow. Advanced UPVC did my doors, one door was not quite right but they've given me great after sales service and have been out a 3-5 times to fix it until they worked out the problem.

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#2588005 19-Oct-2020 21:04

Do PVC doors flex under the touch - as Palliside cladding does?

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#2588007 19-Oct-2020 21:10

eracode:

Do PVC doors flex under the touch - as Palliside cladding does?

No, they're rigid. The PVC is quite thick in the main structure, and it has a metal frame.

All of my doors and windows have PVC frames.

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#2588022 19-Oct-2020 21:45

timmmay: Advanced UPVC did my doors, one door was not quite right but they've given me great after sales service and have been out a 3-5 times to fix it until they worked out the problem.

Hmm, that looks more like they do joinery than doors, i.e. glass within a frame rather than a solid door...

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#2588030 19-Oct-2020 22:18

neb:
timmmay: Advanced UPVC did my doors, one door was not quite right but they've given me great after sales service and have been out a 3-5 times to fix it until they worked out the problem.

Hmm, that looks more like they do joinery than doors, i.e. glass within a frame rather than a solid door...

I guess, but one of my doors has a small glass pane with pvc panels, similar to how a wooden door might look. If you want solid with no or few windows them maybe aluminium would be better, just due to what's available in nz.

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#2588041 19-Oct-2020 23:08

@mattwnz our other original single glazed aluminium door is great as it has a bottom V channel on the inside of the door to collect any condensation dripping down so you never get a pool of water. When I spoke to the man at Parkwood and asked if theirs had this channel he said no, they only have drain holes because less condensation on double glazed. I was also a bit confused when he said they only supply the door and not the frame. I thought door would come complete with frame. Still waiting to hear from the other two.
Not much point showing a photo of the wall, I’ve covered the door with a tarp.

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#2588061 20-Oct-2020 02:42

Have you seen this range of joinery - available nationally via franchised manufacturers:

https://www.vantage.co.nz/entrance-doors

We bought a new house five years ago and it has this stuff, double-glazed, throughout. Beautifully made, high quality. The front door is aluminium and they come already hung in the frame/jamb-set. Our door has five sophisticated hinges that allow for adjustment (up/down/in/out etc) by way of grub-screws - a bit like some kitchen cupboard door hinges but on a bigger scale.

I have no idea about price but worth a look IMO.

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#2588110 20-Oct-2020 09:29

eracode:
Have you seen this range of joinery - available nationally via franchised manufacturers:

https://www.vantage.co.nz/entrance-doors

We bought a new house five years ago and it has this stuff, double-glazed, throughout. Beautifully made, high quality. The front door is aluminium and they come already hung in the frame/jamb-set. Our door has five sophisticated hinges that allow for adjustment (up/down/in/out etc) by way of grub-screws - a bit like some kitchen cupboard door hinges but on a bigger scale.

I have no idea about price but worth a look IMO.

Nice range and there is an installer in Wainuiomata. Thanks will check them out also.

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#2588114 20-Oct-2020 09:40

Just got a quote from one outfit $3000 so a grand cheaper. Waiting for one more.

Installation in March! The other outfit were February. I was told by both that they can’t keep up with the demand so anyone wanting joinery before winter better hurry and order.

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#2588284 20-Oct-2020 12:47

Am happy to share the cheaper suppliers via PM should anyone need, I don’t like to publicise the suppliers and prices on a forum while am still getting quotes as could be unfair comparison and don’t want to hurt anyone’s business.

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