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  #2600886 10-Nov-2020 10:47
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colinuu:

 

I'm trying to feed a wire down inside a wall from the roof space. Holes exist in the dwangs and top plate, but due to a stuff up the wall was gibbed and finished before putting in a draw string. Holes in the top plate and first dwang line up well enough to get a curtain wire through, but the next one down must be out of line and the curtain wire progress is blocked at that point.

 

Working space under the roof is very limited, probably too awkward to try drilling down to make a new hole in-line. It might be possible to drill up from under the house but we would prefer to avoid it if possible. Any tips or ideas from you full time sparkies how to deal with this? 

 

 

Mind me asking where you are located? If in Auckland I have a little gizmo that may well be of use - hard to describe - you could borrow it if you wish.





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  #2600910 10-Nov-2020 11:18
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@eracode:

 

Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately this is Wanganui area.


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  #2600986 10-Nov-2020 12:19
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I bought this fish tape from Amazon a few years ago for just such occasions and it has been very useful several times. Not sure where you get them locally.




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  #2601000 10-Nov-2020 12:45
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If you’re still stuck, try going down under the house then up through a cupboard or wardrobe into the ceiling.




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  #2601018 10-Nov-2020 13:12
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That's one of the good things about, older ring foundation style of houses. Those house-on-pad types miss out on easy retro cable and plumbing work.





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  #2601031 10-Nov-2020 13:33
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Get a mouse (a real one). Keep it in a cage for a few days to make sure it is hungry. Secure a string to it. Put peanut butter at the bottom exit and release the mouse at the top. He will find his way to the food.

 

 

 

 





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  #2601066 10-Nov-2020 15:06
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I used this cable finder recently to retrofit cat6 cable through from the garage to a cupboard underneath the stair case (in conjunction with a GoPro connected to an iPad) via first story sub floor. Was a life saver.

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/crescent-4m-yellow-cable-fish-rod_p4430725





 
 
 

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  #2601083 10-Nov-2020 15:37
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You need a long rigid rod to push through the insulation and feel around for the hole in the 3rd dwang.

 

Low roof clearance makes this harder, so as the electrician said earlier, use drill bit extensions. Buy a bunch of 30/40 cm ones and progressively build a rod down inside the wall. If you can't find the 3rd hole, put a drill bit on the end and make a new one (feel left and right for the gib board then guess the 1/2 way point between to get centred on the dwang so you don't go out the side of the wall!). From the bottom, tie a mousing string to the end of the drill bit before you pull it back up out of the wall.

 

When I was younger I retrofitted Cat 5/6 for a job for 6 months and worked in cramped ceilings every day, endlessly adding and removing drill extensions to get 6 feet down inside walls. 


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  #2601161 10-Nov-2020 16:46
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this is worth a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5XePwAO4m0


  #2601168 10-Nov-2020 17:22
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Steel catenary wire is what we often use, or any other ~2-3mm diameter steel wire. Obviously you want to ensure there is nothing live nearby. A straight end is good at poking through batts like a needle. A rounded end is better at guiding its way through a hole.

 

 

 

You also want three holes in the top plate - one to look through, one for the torch, and one to fish through.


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  #2601521 11-Nov-2020 09:01
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Thanks so much for all the suggestions. There's some really helpful ideas in there and I think a solution will be found.

 

Now, I'm off to find that mouse...


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  #2603036 12-Nov-2020 21:25
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The solution was a fiberglass rod. We used the type that form the support hoops for a tunnel garden. Sturdy, but flexible enough to be able to feed down from under the roof. It worked perfectly. Once again, thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

 

I can let the mouse go now 😀

 

 


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We had our deck extended and a power socket & lighting added by our local builder.

 

To install the power, he had to run a cable from the roof space in the house floor level behind a plaster wall and then under the decking. We didn't want an cable running down the outside wall and agreed that the cable should go through the wall-space. So he had holes cut into the wall (to access the studs) and then had further holes drilled as necessary. After the cable was installed (and working!) he had the wall re-plastered and re-painted. We eventually had the whole room repainted.

 

Not the cheapest solution but the finished job was excellent. We used the same builder and his collection of tradies for a number of jobs around our home. The builder had an interesting collection of tattoos and we used to joke that he got a new tattoo after each big job... sure enough, he had a new fancy one the next time we engaged him. 

 

 


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  #2603225 13-Nov-2020 10:26
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tieke:

I bought this fish tape from Amazon a few years ago for just such occasions and it has been very useful several times. Not sure where you get them locally.




Found one locally.

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/wire-draw-fish-tape/p/TH2350

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