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PhantomNVD

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#1643018 30-Sep-2016 00:25

Agree!

I honestly think it will be when the younger voting population who have never been able to take the first step onto this housing ladder finally reach majority that they will be able to vote in a government who will no longer be able to support this crazy Kiwi desire to always invest in housing above all else. It is this which is the primary cause of the housing buyers crisis, young couples beginning their lives bidding against older couples reinvesting their 'equity' in other 'investment' houses and in doing so, forcing the starting out coupled to support this investor dream by renting and paying that same Morgage for the investor (!)

Capital gains on second homes, government-mandated priority building queues for first home buyers, and non designer-home developments aimed and only marketed to first home OCCUPIER buyers might help solve this. If retirement villages can aim for retirees, why can't the same be done for first home buyers?

Profiteering from our youth in this way is a heinous commonality which too few see as being their own responsibility to fix.

Linuxluver

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#1643386 30-Sep-2016 17:16

If you can get a section, this looks like a good way to get a cheaper home.

I've been to their Auckland show home. I was favourably impressed.

Ecotech Homes

They are pre-fab modules made in a factory in China and then shipped here. They come fully made up and it takes 4 days to put the modules together, with a crane required on the first day.

You have to supply the land and prepare the piles / site...and pay for the movement from the dock to the site and crane....and the labour to assemble it....and get the services connected.

Bottom line: you can get a 3 bedroom home that's actually very nice...and eco-designed...for around $200K-$250K...all up (assuming a flattish sections and no major on-site costs). The kitchen and bathroom(s) installed and ready to go. Cupboards and shelving, too. Same with all the electrics and plumbing and right down to the LED lighting.

The outside cladding is 1.4mm steel. The walls are triple-insulated. The floors are sound-proof concrete...add carpet or wood flooring. It looks like a well-designed container as far as materials go. The builder will add 1.2m eaves and decking you pay for in addition. The windows are all argon-filled double-glazed, including the bi-fold doors to the decking. They look great.

I took this photo at the show home.

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dickytim

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#1643395 30-Sep-2016 17:31

PhantomNVD: Agree!

I honestly think it will be when the younger voting population who have never been able to take the first step onto this housing ladder finally reach majority that they will be able to vote in a government who will no longer be able to support this crazy Kiwi desire to always invest in housing above all else. It is this which is the primary cause of the housing buyers crisis, young couples beginning their lives bidding against older couples reinvesting their 'equity' in other 'investment' houses and in doing so, forcing the starting out coupled to support this investor dream by renting and paying that same Morgage for the investor (!)

Capital gains on second homes, government-mandated priority building queues for first home buyers, and non designer-home developments aimed and only marketed to first home OCCUPIER buyers might help solve this. If retirement villages can aim for retirees, why can't the same be done for first home buyers?

Profiteering from our youth in this way is a heinous commonality which too few see as being their own responsibility to fix.

Tall poppy much?

mattwnz

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#1643421 30-Sep-2016 18:13

The big number missing is the sqm area.

If someone is looking for a modular home, you could also look at Matrix homes. Not exactly pretty, but practical and made in a factory in Wellington. They seem to be reasonably priced for what they are, and could be a good first home for someone who doesn't want to self build themselves

PhantomNVD

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#1643447 30-Sep-2016 18:39

dickytim:
PhantomNVD: Agree!

I honestly think it will be when the younger voting population who have never been able to take the first step onto this housing ladder finally reach majority that they will be able to vote in a government who will no longer be able to support this crazy Kiwi desire to always invest in housing above all else. It is this which is the primary cause of the housing buyers crisis, young couples beginning their lives bidding against older couples reinvesting their 'equity' in other 'investment' houses and in doing so, forcing the starting out coupled to support this investor dream by renting and paying that same Morgage for the investor (!)

Capital gains on second homes, government-mandated priority building queues for first home buyers, and non designer-home developments aimed and only marketed to first home OCCUPIER buyers might help solve this. If retirement villages can aim for retirees, why can't the same be done for first home buyers?

Profiteering from our youth in this way is a heinous commonality which too few see as being their own responsibility to fix.

Tall poppy much?

Nope, I'm all set myself, 260m2 house on a 2.7 acre plot which I (mostly) own outright. My boys are 5 and 7 so I'm personally unaffected, but I do feel for those who can't even start out. As I've now bolded above, can you not see the irony in your response?

Linuxluver

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#1643455 30-Sep-2016 18:56

mattwnz:

The big number missing is the sqm area.

If someone is looking for a modular home, you could also look at Matrix homes. Not exactly pretty, but practical and made in a factory in Wellington. They seem to be reasonably priced for what they are, and could be a good first home for someone who doesn't want to self build themselves

With ECOtech , their 4 bedroom home is 136sqm and a larger version is 165sqm.

The 3 bedroom home is 107sqm, which is about the usual number. It's open plan design makes it feel spacious.

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mattwnz

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#1643491 30-Sep-2016 19:36

That's pretty tiny though for a family home. I think the Matrix homes have larger roomed options,

Smaller houses maybe becoming the norm in Auckland, but I remember when I was living in Japan, there were many small two level cheaply built houses, and it was one reason I craved to live back in NZ where houses are more spacious, and you aren't living on top of one another. Especially as more NZers are now working from home, so need more space. My fear is that NZ is going to end up with suburbs of trailer type homes, like the US. So hope the councils are going to be putting systems in place to control they type of houses being built, and so you get a good diverse mix of designs. From coverage of the housing crisis in Auckland, there looks to be some really horrible looking developments that have been built, with houses so close together, and very few trees. I would rather have more 3-5 level houses, and more open space, than building low rise urban sprawl.

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Linuxluver

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#1643503 30-Sep-2016 20:21

mattwnz:

That's pretty tiny though for a family home. I think the Matrix homes have larger roomed options,

Smaller houses maybe becoming the norm in Auckland, but I remember when I was living in Japan, there were many small two level cheaply built houses, and it was one reason I craved to live back in NZ where houses are more spacious, and you aren't living on top of one another. Especially as more NZers are now working from home, so need more space. My fear is that NZ is going to end up with suburbs of trailer type homes, like the US. So hope the councils are going to be putting systems in place to control they type of houses being built, and so you get a good diverse mix of designs. From coverage of the housing crisis in Auckland, there looks to be some really horrible looking developments that have been built, with houses so close together, and very few trees. I would rather have more 3-5 level houses, and more open space, than building low rise urban sprawl.

Interesting. I'll check out Matrix homes. Thanks for that.

As for 107sqm.....that's pretty much the size of 80% of the homes in Beach Haven / Birkdale in Auckland.

We would probably go for the 165sqm option. It's two-story.

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MikeAqua

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#1644139 2-Oct-2016 13:41

Linuxluver:

Bottom line: you can get a 3 bedroom home that's actually very nice...and eco-designed...for around $200K-$250K...all up

That's really expensive on a per square metre basis.

Mike

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