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Topic # 242217 16-Oct-2018 16:19
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Am looking to get a mitre saw + stand to build a few small duck houses, and can't really decide between a few different models.

 

This is going to just be used around the house, probably very rarely, so I don't need anything too fancy.

 

Happy to spend around $300 - 500. So far I've narrowed it down to:

 

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/black-decker-255mm-slide-compound-mitre-saw-2000-watt/p/189376
Seems to have solid reviews, pretty low price.

 

https://www.tradetested.co.nz/tools-hardware/power-tools/saws/mitre-saws/flash-mitre-saw-mitre-saw-255mm-single-bevel.html#reviews
Very low price and seems to have very good reviews, though have never used this site before, not sure about it's reputation.

 

Please fire away with any other recommendations/thoughts. 


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  Reply # 2108966 16-Oct-2018 16:31
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You will struggle to get a brand name kitset with stand for that price I see the trade-tested one with stand will meet the price point.  I have a Bosch one and its 'okay' laser guide on it is terrible. Due to the difficulty in moving my mitre saw with stand I tend to use my cheap non-sliding mitre saw far more often as I can simply drag it one handed out lay in on the ground and do the job rather than asking someone to help me move the Bosch or taking it off its stand to get it in position

 

Things to check:
Is it a sliding saw.  Even better is it a dual compound sliding mire saw - basically can it cut all angles in both directions can reverse cut if you cant cut in both directions but easier to make mistakes nothing like doing the perfect cut inverted!  A this price point I think you will find them all fairly similar to be honest more important is the quality of the blade that you will use.  Check the size blade is in stock and has useful teeth types at your favorite hardware store.


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  Reply # 2108978 16-Oct-2018 16:43
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I've got the 10 inch 2000W ryobi. You can get that and a stand for a tick over $500.

It's a home/diy level saw. Within that basic specification, I'm pretty happy with it. There's a bit of play zeroing so you need to check for square until you get used to it, but I wasn't expecting miracles for that price.

I used trade tested once, received a crappy product and worse customer service, and have never been back. This wasn't one of their power tools though.

I've bought a few things from the ToolShed and have been reasonably impressed with their quality and very impressed at their service.

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  Reply # 2108993 16-Oct-2018 17:05
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I had the same dilemma a month ago and ended up with the Black and Decker one linked, I purchased it second hand (hardly used) for $150. I'm quite happy with it for the price, its built well, but definitely isn't as nice as a Makita. 

 

Its not as accurate on the angles as higher end saws, but it cuts well and doesn't have any slop. If I had to choose again and I was buying new I'd buy the Black and Decker again.

 

 

 

If you NEED a stand, then consider the Ryobi, you can get it in store at Bunnings with a stand for $400. It seems reasonable for the price and didn't have any slop when I checked it out.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2108996 16-Oct-2018 17:15
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I purchased a mitre saw + stand combo earlier in the year, went for Dewalt DW713 with a Job Mate stand. Saw is great of course, and can't fault the stand despite it's low price (I'm pretty sure it was under $150, but seems to have gone up in price since). 

 

Stand is pretty handy if you're working with long stock (in my case architraves) but as mentioned above you might be able to make do without - either on the ground or an existing work bench. In that case, you could put more $ towards the saw.

 

I'd be checking how much give there is on the fences and pivot. Especially with sliding compounds as the really cheap nasty ones can have a bit of play on them. They are awesome tools but very frustrating if you can't get them working accurately!




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  Reply # 2109000 16-Oct-2018 17:23
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Thanks for the input.

 

I suppose I could push up the budget to $600, not get a stand for now, and get the AEG / Makita / Bosch, or something similar

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-254mm-2000w-slide-compound-mitre-saw_p00239442

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/makita-1430w-255mm-slide-compound-mitre-saw_p00474853

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/bosch-1800w-sliding-mitre-saw_p00183492

 

I'm only interested in doing this if there would be a significant step up in quality. I do want to cut at angles, so would pay more if there would be a noticeable improvement.


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  Reply # 2109059 16-Oct-2018 18:44
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I have a ryobi stand, it weighs a crapload.

 

Also the big sliding compound ryobi saw weighs too much to easily move. Forget moving the saw on the stand without help.





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  Reply # 2109115 16-Oct-2018 21:03
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This style of roller stand is great:

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/craftright-adjustable-work-support-1-30cm_p05814579

In addition to the mitre saw, I've used mine as a rinky dink outfeed table on the table saw. Though this is still perhaps a step up from the creative use of a wheelie bin that may have been suggested hereabouts.

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  Reply # 2109117 16-Oct-2018 21:08
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I bought the Bosch sliding Mitre Saw from Mitre 10 back in the autumn.

I’ve used it quite a bit over the winter doing house repairs and haven’t had any issues. The laser still works and the pivot and angles still all line up correctly.

You don’t need a stand, you just need something with a flat surface, like a bench or small table. I use a cheap Black & Decker Workmate to sit it on.

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  Reply # 2109253 17-Oct-2018 08:45
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Ozito stuff at Bunnings is really good value and quality. Ozito was bought out by a german company Einhell. The Ozito Power X Change is all rebadged Einhell sold in Australia & New Zealand. Einhell only bought Ozito so they could gain access to Bunnings. You can read reviews of Einhell products sold in Europe for their various tools to get an idea of quality. It's cheaper to buy Einhell products in Australasia (rebadged) than it is in Europe for same product. 

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/search/products?q=ozito%20mitre%20saw&redirectFrom=Any

 

 





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  Reply # 2109271 17-Oct-2018 09:03
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I have a Toolshed brand mitresaw, the bigger version though.  I would really recommend against it.  Its not very accurate the positive stops dont lock in very well.  hard to get a true 90degrees on it as it cant be microadjusted easily.

 

 

 

Also dont waste money on black and decker... ryobi is a better affordable brand.


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  Reply # 2109284 17-Oct-2018 09:14
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Don't forget Bunnings and Mitre 10 will price match and drop 15% so worth shopping around and see if someone else has it cheaper.  Alternatively play them off against each other for brands stocked at both chains.


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  Reply # 2109335 17-Oct-2018 09:40
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They are pretty much wise to that on the common brands and you will usually find that they already have the on shelf price reduced to a few cents below the other guys if there is a sale at the other one, and then neither of them will accept on shelf pricetags as an advertised price to go and match it the other way, despite on shelf price tags being covered by the advertising standards association as being advertising.

 

The only luck I have had on a price match was an in sink erator which harvey norman had on a huge discount for only the fancy model, which with the 15% at bunnings took it to below the price of the third one down that they sold.

 

At least with a saw you wont run into the "trade quantities" BS excuse for not selling a house lot of downlights, or like when warehouse stationary would only sell me 2 of each size sistema storage tray at a matched price.





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  Reply # 2109342 17-Oct-2018 09:46
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price matching ive had success with.  Bunnings often I find is cheaper than Mitre10.  My local mitre10 is onto it though and usually have their prices at the same, but a mitre10 a little further away dont, so I try there.  Ive gotten

 

- insinkerator  (saved about $40)
- bosch PBD 40 drill press (saved about $70 off this)
- makita Line trimmer, from $140 to about $105 (toolshed was having a makita sale)
- spakfilla, this stuff is cheap, but i noticed it was cheaper at bunnigns, but i was at mitre10, so saved about $2 :)


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  Reply # 2109423 17-Oct-2018 10:22
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You may also be able to save a little bit of money with a trade card.

 

Mitre10 - depends on store, usually you can ask the trade desk for a trade cash card application.

 

Bunnings - go to trade desk and ask for powerpass cash account application.

 

In my experience you can be upfront and just say you do a lot of DIY, and they are happy to give you a card on that basis. Discounts won't blow your socks off, but you can get 5-15% off most things, except those on special or everyday low price. Biggest discounts tend to be on product in the yard/drive through. You might save you $10-40 off your saw


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  Reply # 2109426 17-Oct-2018 10:24
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I have the 255mm B&D compound sliding mitre saw on a Bosch folding stand.  I'm happy with both units and with the combo.





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