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#183691 26-Oct-2015 22:58
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So I was at the mall over the weekend, in an effort to escape 30-40 odd shoe shops I found myself in health 2000.
The lady told me about these hair tests they do.
Interesting. 
So they pulled the remaining 4-5 hairs out of the back of my head, scanned them ( in a usb connected scanner) and sent them off to Germany.
15 minutes later they had a file that had them trying to sell me among other things like vitamins and amino acids , some of it made sense, a bit low in vitamin b12 etc, but they also tried to sell me a crystal bracelet that would protect me against the significant amount of radio wave exposure I was getting from my cellphone.

WTF ?
Not, my wifi router, not the 50Kw FM radio station I live near, not the computer, the mains or the computer monitor, no....none of those things, the culprit is My 900Mhz cellphone,
and they can prove it :) ( see attached pic)

I'm a bit surprised they couldn't tell me who my ISP was or what sites I had visited.
Perhaps what compass bearing I'd been aligned to whilst watching the Tv, or what was in the microwave?
Perhaps they didn't have the right hair follicles for that !

Seriously, Health 2000 in my mind is supposed to be a reasonably reputable company that does not engage in psuedo science like this.
There isn't a single patent in the world for this type of "technology", 
Their website seems more fascinated with the fact that they can link database tables together. 
http://www.cell-wellbeing.com/

Health 2000 really seems to think were stupid
funnily enough a bit of an argument followed when they asked me to pay $85 
 

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  #1414266 27-Oct-2015 02:23
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Hmmm I should get this test done, haven't connected my phone to a non 4G or 3G network for a good 4-5 years now (thanks Spark!). Wonder if the GSM bands will show up as the cause of my super thick and forever growing scalp jungle. 



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  #1414276 27-Oct-2015 06:15
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Traction current. Your millennium falcon was intercepted by a star destroyer recently?

But the vitamin stuff anyway. What is the basis of technology in this scanner thing.

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  #1414279 27-Oct-2015 06:56
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Now I have seen it all just WOW!



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  #1414282 27-Oct-2015 07:08
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A usb scammer can do all that? Wow the government should immediately stop all the expensive disease screening programs and just buy a few of these.

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  #1414286 27-Oct-2015 07:25
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I don't trust any of these types of store. I was in one a few years back (I forget which) and one of the detox products actually clamed to "repair DNA".

These places specialize in generating placebo effects.

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  #1414287 27-Oct-2015 07:26
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They have CE approval so it must be OK right?

https://cellwellbeing.wordpress.com/

Our European based assessment and data centres uses CE approved technologies, manufactured to EN ISO13485 standards, which operate 24 hours a day, 365 days a year from our secure servers. Overseen and supported by a dedicated team of doctors, environmental specialists and computer engineers.

 
 
 

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  #1414293 27-Oct-2015 07:42
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My aging mum had this(?) test about a month ago.  I think she said it was done from her chemist so not restricted to health 2000.  I was under the impression in her case they physically sent the hair samples to Germany as the results took about 3 weeks to come back.  But then again she is getting on a bit...

A lifelong skeptic of 'witch-doctor' medicine I was mildly surprised at the accuracy of some of the report conclusions, detailing known existing health issues, however largely it was meaningless hokum without an interpretation.  You could read anything into it you wanted.  I guess that's the idea, scare people into buying vitamins, supplements etc?
    




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  #1414300 27-Oct-2015 07:52
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I believe this kind of thing to be quackery of the highest order. I know I don't always eat as well as I should so I buy a multivitamin from the supermarket to supplement my diet. The rest of this stuff is akin to witchcraft (a.k.a. homeopathy) as far as I'm concerned. I'm very surprised to see something like this from a "high street" brand like Health 2000 - did the store uniforms include tinfoil beanies? 

Last year my wife went to a market and came home wearing one of these nanovibration technology bracelets. The website says it all (in bad English):

 

Shuzi utilizes a proprietary Chip from United States. All Shuzi products have a chip programmed with Nano Vibration Technology generating subtle energy frequency, to promote wellness for your everyday lifestyle, offering you comfort and durability while you work and play. Results may vary from person to person.

 


I was so embarrassed. It's on the same level as Nigerian email scams as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully they were doing a deal on market day so she only wasted just over $200, instead of the normal price of close to $300.

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  #1414302 27-Oct-2015 07:57
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Just over $200 OMG

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  #1414305 27-Oct-2015 08:05
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scuwp: My aging mum had this(?) test about a month ago.  I think she said it was done from her chemist so not restricted to health 2000.  I was under the impression in her case they physically sent the hair samples to Germany as the results took about 3 weeks to come back.  But then again she is getting on a bit...

A lifelong skeptic of 'witch-doctor' medicine I was mildly surprised at the accuracy of some of the report conclusions, detailing known existing health issues, however largely it was meaningless hokum without an interpretation.  You could read anything into it you wanted.  I guess that's the idea, scare people into buying vitamins, supplements etc?
    

The three weeks may have been a 'follow up consultation'.

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  #1414366 27-Oct-2015 09:16

joker97: A usb scammer can do all that? Wow the government should immediately stop all the expensive disease screening programs and just buy a few of these.


USB scammer indeeed!

 
 
 

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  #1414386 27-Oct-2015 09:50
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You had me at crystals.



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  #1414871 27-Oct-2015 16:43
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My girlfriend has just had something similar done. She spent about $300 on all kinds of god knows what supplements. The worst part is the crazy diet they've recommended.
It's vege, fish, meat, eggs and that's about it. Plus their 'supplements'. No spices or sugars.
I really don't know how to have this conversation.

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  #1414872 27-Oct-2015 16:44
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My girlfriend has just had something similar done. She spent about $300 on all kinds of god knows what supplements. The worst part is the crazy diet they've recommended.
It's vege, fish, meat, eggs and that's about it. Plus their 'supplements'. No spices or sugars.
I really don't know how to have this conversation.

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  #1414911 27-Oct-2015 17:03
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scuwp: My aging mum had this(?) test about a month ago.  I think she said it was done from her chemist so not restricted to health 2000.  I was under the impression in her case they physically sent the hair samples to Germany as the results took about 3 weeks to come back.  But then again she is getting on a bit...


Perhaps that is the time it took to post the hair samples to the nearest Health 2000 shop and for them to post the results back.

Seriously though, if this happened in a pharmacy you should complain to the Health and Disability Commissioner about the lack of professional ethics shown by the pharmacist.

Contact details are at the top of this page:  http://www.hpdt.org.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=28

I see there is no facility to email or do it online but there is an 0800 number and a PO Box.

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