Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek


#206190 13-Dec-2016 16:33
Send private message

That old thread was getting long and confusing. Ive found 2 litre ford focuses look good too. 

 

So i now have, Corolla, Axela, Ford focus and maybe the Mazda demio, but trying to buy NZ new.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
meesham
973 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #1687194 13-Dec-2016 16:52
Send private message

I think they come out of Thailand. You need to be careful with the older ones with the Powershift dual clutch gearbox, they were problematic (the newer ones have conventional autos).

 

Edit: I've just remembered from when I was looking at them that the ST comes out of Germany (and maybe the RS, it wasn't out then). From what I understand the German models have ISOFix connectors and the Thai built models don't (an important feature for us).




djtOtago
1149 posts

Uber Geek


  #1687197 13-Dec-2016 16:54
Send private message

Would need the VIN number to know which factory it was built in.

 

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories

 

If you have a VIN number try entering it at http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do

 

I have never used the site, but it may give you the info you are looking for.

 

[Edit: added more information]

 

 


sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #1687198 13-Dec-2016 16:56
Send private message

meesham:

 

I think they come out of Thailand. You need to be careful with the older ones with the Powershift dual clutch gearbox, they were problematic (the newer ones have conventional autos).

 

 

Ford are replacing the clutch in the Powershift's even if they're out of warranty. I had mine done on my 2013 Focus a few months ago.

 

The current gen clutch they're replacing it with is a vast improvement.

 

 




MikeB4
18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Trusted

  #1687208 13-Dec-2016 17:15
Send private message

They have been manufactured for AsiaPac market in Thailand since 2012


TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek


  #1687235 13-Dec-2016 17:59
Send private message

Oh no Im looking at 2003 to 2006ish, about $5k for a low km one.

 

They have a zetec 2.0l and a 1.8l GL and a 1600cc from what I can make out.


Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #1687306 13-Dec-2016 19:34
Send private message

Enter the reg number on carjam.  For example the first listing on TM:

 

https://carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=BPZ848

 

Country of origin: Germany

 

 


sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #1687314 13-Dec-2016 19:53
Send private message

I previously had a 2006 Focus that was made in Germany. At that stage they were all made in Germany but some of the later 1st gen vehicles in NZ (up to 2004) were made in South Africa and I believe some around 2008-2009ish towards the end of the 2nd gen may have come from there as well before they switched to Thailand.

 

They mostly had a 2.0L Duratec engine (Zetec was just the sport model badge)

 

 


 
 
 

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.
TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek


  #1687553 14-Dec-2016 09:39
Send private message

sbiddle:

 

I previously had a 2006 Focus that was made in Germany. At that stage they were all made in Germany but some of the later 1st gen vehicles in NZ (up to 2004) were made in South Africa and I believe some around 2008-2009ish towards the end of the 2nd gen may have come from there as well before they switched to Thailand.

 

They mostly had a 2.0L Duratec engine (Zetec was just the sport model badge)

 

Did it give you many problems? A bit like a rolla they arent a BMW interior, but I dont care, I just want a low cost vehicle for her that doesnt cost the earth to fix if something goes wrong. I can do everything from brake pads to radiators and at a pinch a timing belt, but I dont have tools anymore. A gearbox rebuild is out of my skill set, somethings in life you gotta pay someone else to do, like tiling IMO. 


sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #1687566 14-Dec-2016 09:55
Send private message

TeaLeaf:

 

sbiddle:

 

I previously had a 2006 Focus that was made in Germany. At that stage they were all made in Germany but some of the later 1st gen vehicles in NZ (up to 2004) were made in South Africa and I believe some around 2008-2009ish towards the end of the 2nd gen may have come from there as well before they switched to Thailand.

 

They mostly had a 2.0L Duratec engine (Zetec was just the sport model badge)

 

Did it give you many problems? A bit like a rolla they arent a BMW interior, but I dont care, I just want a low cost vehicle for her that doesnt cost the earth to fix if something goes wrong. I can do everything from brake pads to radiators and at a pinch a timing belt, but I dont have tools anymore. A gearbox rebuild is out of my skill set, somethings in life you gotta pay someone else to do, like tiling IMO. 

 

 

I got mine at 15,000km and sold it at 180,000. Apart from servicing my only costs were a serpentine belt change due to general wear and an alternator which caused me some grief and after getting it repaired twice I got it replaced. Other than that the car was flawless.

 

Mine was starting to burn a bit of oil which apparently isn't that uncommon at those km's. Most of that era are also chain drive so you don't have to worry about a cam belt either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek


  #1692823 20-Dec-2016 13:30
Send private message

It seems every fiesta and focus I look at is either made in Belgium or Germany.

 

There doesn't seem to be a lot of mention of reliability concerns.

 

Most I see are manual which is good.

 

The 170 model seems a little more spritely but still a very Corolla esque finish (i.e. boring as possible).

 

Still focussing on Corolla and if possible a 2.0 NZ New mazda 3, or a low KM mk 4 golf.

 

Whilst buying from dealer gives CGA insurance by default, Im finding dealers sell the same vehicles as private from $2-$3k more. When buying a $4500 car, thats a lot, yes something could go wrong, but factoring in that price check, if I have the clutch and head gasket pressure tested on a used car I feel fairly confident. Ive been buying used private cars forever, never bought one from a dealer. I feel their makeup is unwarranted. Sure something could go wrong, but thats the risk you take and I feel $2-3k on a corolla or focus manual, pretty much covers most majors. A VW even if its manual should be ok


afe66
3181 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #1692846 20-Dec-2016 13:54
Send private message

I bought my focus 1.6 "Sport" 2006 when in uk with 17,000miles in 2010.

 

Brought it back to nz, now 46,000 miles.

 

No issues at all.

 

Was built in Germany according to the vin number. You can find the factory numbers on the internet. - that's how I found out mine was built in Germany.

 

Although 1600 cc is struggles on Dunedin hills with a full load, so I wouldn't get it if hills are in the plan.

 

A.

 

 


TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek


  #1692854 20-Dec-2016 14:03
Send private message

Yeah hills and 4 adults :-). But usually garaged and 6km round trips once a week is the norm. But going on a family holiday with the oldies from Europe, 300km each leg, 4legs to the journey.


meesham
973 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #1692855 20-Dec-2016 14:05
Send private message

I had a NZ new 2003 Mondeo (built in Belgium) for about 5 years, it was actually one of the more reliable cars I've owned. 


sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #1692860 20-Dec-2016 14:19
Send private message

TeaLeaf:

 

Whilst buying from dealer gives CGA insurance by default, Im finding dealers sell the same vehicles as private from $2-$3k more. When buying a $4500 car, thats a lot, yes something could go wrong, but factoring in that price check, if I have the clutch and head gasket pressure tested on a used car I feel fairly confident. Ive been buying used private cars forever, never bought one from a dealer. I feel their makeup is unwarranted. Sure something could go wrong, but thats the risk you take and I feel $2-3k on a corolla or focus manual, pretty much covers most majors. A VW even if its manual should be ok

 

 

Some of the dealer markups are crazy. I sold my 2006 Focus last year and got $4k on the spot at Turners. Realistically I believed the car was worth probably $4500 or so but I was happy to walk out the door with the money rather than having to deal with time wasters.

 

At the time there were numerous others both individuals and dealers trying to sell similar era models for anywhere from $7k - $8k. I saw one at a dealer that had done around 150k for $9,999. At least there were a few realists on TradeMe looking in the $4500 - $6000 range.

 

 

 

 


ubergeeknz
3344 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Vocus

  #1692863 20-Dec-2016 14:26
Send private message

Worth keeping in mind that in case of any problems, a car dealer has to put them right, so aside from the not insignificant overheads of running a shop, they carry the risk of having to do major repairs on at least some of the cars they sell.


 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Air New Zealand Starts AI adoption with OpenAI
Posted 24-Jul-2025 16:00


eero Pro 7 Review
Posted 23-Jul-2025 12:07


BeeStation Plus Review
Posted 21-Jul-2025 14:21


eero Unveils New Wi-Fi 7 Products in New Zealand
Posted 21-Jul-2025 00:01


WiZ Introduces HDMI Sync Box and other Light Devices
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:32


RedShield Enhances DDoS and Bot Attack Protection
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:26


Seagate Ships 30TB Drives
Posted 17-Jul-2025 11:24


Oclean AirPump A10 Water Flosser Review
Posted 13-Jul-2025 11:05


Samsung Galaxy Z Fold7: Raising the Bar for Smartphones
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Samsung Galaxy Z Flip7 Brings New Edge-To-Edge FlexWindow
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Epson Launches New AM-C550Z WorkForce Enterprise printer
Posted 9-Jul-2025 18:22


Samsung Releases Smart Monitor M9
Posted 9-Jul-2025 17:46


Nearly Half of Older Kiwis Still Write their Passwords on Paper
Posted 9-Jul-2025 08:42


D-Link 4G+ Cat6 Wi-Fi 6 DWR-933M Mobile Hotspot Review
Posted 1-Jul-2025 11:34


Oppo A5 Series Launches With New Levels of Durability
Posted 30-Jun-2025 10:15









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.