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#2352341 12-Nov-2019 15:53

I thought the Zero 9 had split rims. I'm pretty sure the rear is.
ie you can undo the 6 (or is it 8) hex screws that hold the two halves of the rim together and the tyre will then just come off.

Edit:
Google tells me it is older Zero 9s that have a split rims. Newer ones do not.

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#2352343 12-Nov-2019 15:58

Ok, will give detergent a go.

The irony is that I've had a tube of Slime sitting in the garage that I'd bought even before my scooter arrived and I'd simply never got around to putting it in the tyres; while there's no guarantee that it would have stopped this puncture, it's still a good dose of karma for being so lazy.

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#2352364 12-Nov-2019 16:27

The stuff in the Falcon videos is Tyre Foam, I believe. It cleans the tyre and makes it look new and shiny - probably contains silicone oil. I don't see how it could help getting the tyre off & on.

I've also done the tyres on a Zero 9 - you'll need 3 steel tyre levers, available from bike shops & some hardware stores. It also takes fairly strong hands, but it can be done. Getting it back on again isn't much easier - most bike tyres I can just roll them on by hand but these smaller ones I had to use the levers again to get it over the rims. I ended up scratching the rims a bit, its difficult to avoid doing this.

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#2371510 10-Dec-2019 09:53

So Saturday was a perfect day to ride the scooter, but I had of course procrastinated about doing anything about my potential puncture.

As a result, I pumped up the tire and then waited - 10 hours later it was completely flat again, confirming I did have a puncture.

Did some Googling, watched some videos and found that we do have a e-Bike/e-Scooter store/repair centre in Dunedin - reached out to them and got a reply back this morning indicating they can help. I'll also get some sealant installed at the same time in an effort to stop another puncture happening so quickly.

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#2371783 10-Dec-2019 13:59

nzkiwiman:

So Saturday was a perfect day to ride the scooter, but I had of course procrastinated about doing anything about my potential puncture.

As a result, I pumped up the tire and then waited - 10 hours later it was completely flat again, confirming I did have a puncture.

Did some Googling, watched some videos and found that we do have a e-Bike/e-Scooter store/repair centre in Dunedin - reached out to them and got a reply back this morning indicating they can help. I'll also get some sealant installed at the same time in an effort to stop another puncture happening so quickly.

Post back once you know what they'll charge you.

I took my Zero 10 in to a local bike store and they suggested it would cost $50-60 to get them to repair it, and suggested I take it to the only shop that sells e-scooters. I've neither done that or managed to get the @#$@# tyre off myself, so many, many weeks later my scooter remains unusable. Ridiculous, given the generally good weather, but knowing this I think I'd sacrifice some on-road comfort if it meant no punctures (ie, move to solid tyres).

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#2371786 10-Dec-2019 14:03

^ Either I pay, and pay whatever they charge OR I remain without a scooter

Heading there tomorrow at lunch; they have very annoying store hours (open when I am at work, closed by the time I finish)

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#2371859 10-Dec-2019 15:42

Save some money - see my post https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=245371&page_no=11#2352338

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#2377094 17-Dec-2019 15:13

$30 for time and $20 ($10 per tyre) for sealant (they asked if I wanted this in the tyre before hand, I agreed)

I already had the inner tube, so I gave them it at the time I handed over the scooter. Of course the weather has been terrible, so no attempt at riding it yet

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#2383682 1-Jan-2020 17:23

This scooter is driving me insane; we finally had some decent weather so I took it out on Monday for a journey around - I was going slow as I also wanted to play Pokemon Go and 10km is the limit for that.

About 5km into the ride my back brake failed, squeezed the handlebar lever, lever hit the handlebar and nothing.
Front brake allowed me to stop (but also at the risk of stopping to hard)

Looking at it last night I figured that when the scooter was in getting the tyre fixed, the brake cable wasn't connected correctly, but even sorting that out this morning didn't resolve.
I guess back to the EV store in Dunedin next week when they open ...

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#2383719 1-Jan-2020 20:03

I meant to post this earlier, but better late than never...

I continued to have real difficulties getting the back tyre off, but ended up borrowing a local firm's motorbike tyre levers; he suggested using Vaseline in place of detergent and using a hairdryer to soften the tyre.

But then, even once I got one side of the tyre off, I hit the problem of trying to get the inner tube out, which was basically impossible with the tyre still on due to the 90 degree bend on the valve bit... So we tried another approach, undoing all the bolts holding the motor in place, and guess what? The Zero 10 rear wheel is motorbike-like in that it's in two parts that split down the centre. (Unsure if this applies to the front tyre.)

As such, personally I'd recommend to those who end up with a flat tyre to seriously think about simply unbolting the motor from the wheel, as it's then relatively simple to replace (or perhaps repair) the innertube, and there's very little chance of pinching the tube when doing so. I wish I'd known this from the beginning as it would have saved so much time and frustration!

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#2391111 13-Jan-2020 16:17

Last Friday I rode my scooter to work for the first time in a couple of months, and when I went to ride home... another flat tyre.

Seriously?!

At least this time it'll be far easier to fix, now I know just to unbolt the motor. Still, it means I'm back in the car, and it's another $24 for an inner tube (again, seriously?!).

Does anyone know how successful replacing pneumatic tyres with 'solid' tyres on scooters such as the Zero 10 may be? @robfish: as someone involved with the brand, you may have knowledge of this.

I've seen a few such 10" tyres on Ali Express etc (unsure if the right width etc), which seem to have a high-density foam in replacement of the inner tube (assume this is how most work?) - I'm thinking I'm happy to sacrifice a bit of road comfort for a puncture-free existence.

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#2391118 13-Jan-2020 16:35

jonathan18:

Last Friday I rode my scooter to work for the first time in a couple of months, and when I went to ride home... another flat tyre.

Seriously?!

At least this time it'll be far easier to fix, now I know just to unbolt the motor. Still, it means I'm back in the car, and it's another $24 for an inner tube (again, seriously?!).

Does anyone know how successful replacing pneumatic tyres with 'solid' tyres on scooters such as the Zero 10 may be? @robfish: as someone involved with the brand, you may have knowledge of this.

I've seen a few such 10" tyres on Ali Express etc (unsure if the right width etc), which seem to have a high-density foam in replacement of the inner tube (assume this is how most work?) - I'm thinking I'm happy to sacrifice a bit of road comfort for a puncture-free existence.

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#2391145 13-Jan-2020 18:00

Yep, I had put Slime in only the night before. I have a feeling, though, this loss of pressure may be over inflation rather than a puncture. I initially had though it was Slime in the valve, but after cleaning that up still had major deflation. Do 10” tyres need to be inflated to a relatively low pressure?

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#2391163 13-Jan-2020 18:46

Quite the opposite, according to Freed if the tyres are underinflated even slightly then because they are such small tyres with so little air they will rapidly overheat and so easily puncture or fail.

So if you are having continual puncture problems make sure that you keep them highly inflated - 55psi to 60psi is the recommended.

Cheers

djtOtago

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#2391224 13-Jan-2020 19:59

With my Zero 9 I got a puncher the 4th time I used it.
I patched the tube and filled it with my go to sealant Joe's Super Sealant http://www.joes-no-flats.com/Products/598/Joe%27s-Super-Sealant
So far I have done another 300km without another flat. (Touches wood)

I’ve never had much luck using Slime (The Brand) in tubed tyres. Does work better in tubeless tyres.
For tubes I have always used Joe's Super Sealant. I get it from my local Avanti Plus bike shop. ( Note: Some Avanti plus shops have re-branded "My Ride" or something)

I keep my front tyre at 45psi and my rear at 50psi. Being small volume tyres they need checking every week. I normally need to add 10psi or so each week.

I MTB a lot so, I have tube patches, a good upright floor pump etc. Which does make maintaining a scooter tyre a bit easier.

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