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MarkM536
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  #2604977 16-Nov-2020 20:52
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P1n3apqlExpr3ss:

 

Has anyone noticed any weird quirks when charging? I have a Zero 9 and sometimes it'll say it has fully charged at 50.5~V, and you definitely notice it the next day when going uphill.. some days (generally when plugging in as soon as I get home when the battery is warm, but not today..) it'll charge all the way up to 54.6~V

 

 

My Z9 is similar. It's normal.

 

The power supply charges up to 54.8V.

 

The battery level goes down in 3 stages I've found.

 

Stage one from fully charged to 50v, stage two from 50v to 48v and stage three when it feels sluggish at 48v to 39v cut-off.

 

 

 

Anyway; since this is my first post in the Zero thread I would like to say thankyou. This thread is the reason I joined GeekZone, even though I read this after I purchased the scooter 😉.




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  #2649419 8-Feb-2021 12:43
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Any Zero 8 or Zero 9 owners that can comment about how they feel it handles riding on wet roads and whether the mudguard prevents back splatter?  I'm not looking to ride in the rain, but it's Auckland and so riding on damp streets that haven't dried out is just going to happen.  I have an ES4 and I had to 3D print a mudguard extender for this purpose.  Otherwise it was rideable on wet streets (albeit definitely at a reduced speed and much slower cornering).

 

I'm trying to decide between the Zero 8 / 9 or an E-TWOW GT2020 as replacement for my ES4.


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  #2649471 8-Feb-2021 14:48
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spacedog:

 

Any Zero 8 or Zero 9 owners that can comment about how they feel it handles riding on wet roads and whether the mudguard prevents back splatter?  I'm not looking to ride in the rain, but it's Auckland and so riding on damp streets that haven't dried out is just going to happen.  I have an ES4 and I had to 3D print a mudguard extender for this purpose.  Otherwise it was rideable on wet streets (albeit definitely at a reduced speed and much slower cornering).

 

I'm trying to decide between the Zero 8 / 9 or an E-TWOW GT2020 as replacement for my ES4.

 

 

Speaking as a Zero 9 owner, any water on the ground  - puddles, etc. will get flicked up by the rear wheel and up the back of your legs. The front wheel isn't such a problem as the spray gets blocked by the deck.

 

I cut some thin bits of rubber sheet and stuck them onto the plastic fenders to bring them a couple of cm lower. Works a treat.

 

 




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  #2649578 8-Feb-2021 17:26
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spacedog:

 

Any Zero 8 or Zero 9 owners that can comment about how they feel it handles riding on wet roads and whether the mudguard prevents back splatter? 

 

 

Zero 9 owner here.

 

Water does get splashed up.

 

I have to ride slower to 20kmh, I can't go any higher otherwise I'd slip in the wet. At that speed there's no water splashing onto me.

 

 

 

I would advise extending the front mudguard down if you can. Just so water isn't splashed up to where the cables into the main deck. I also placed a little tape over a hole on the bottom so water doesn't splash into the deck from there.

 

 

 

 

 

As FreedPEV said to me; doesn't matter if it gets a light splash, just make sure to dry it out as soon as possible.

 

 

 

spacedog:

 

I'm trying to decide between the Zero 8 / 9 or an E-TWOW GT2020 as replacement for my ES4.

 

 

As far as I can see, main differences is weight and it has a 500W motor. Disadvantages I see is that it only has a drum brake.

 

I went past the Zero 8 because it only had one brake on a wheel. Drum brake is nice on my Zero 9, but you need a powerful brake (like a disc brake) to stop in a hurry. I chose the Z9 because it has a brake on both wheels and it was a compromise from a Zero 10 because it had at least one disc brake.

 

For portability; that E-TWOW looks great for a lightweight scooter.


MarkM536
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  #2649579 8-Feb-2021 17:26
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spacedog:

 

Any Zero 8 or Zero 9 owners that can comment about how they feel it handles riding on wet roads and whether the mudguard prevents back splatter? 

 

 

Zero 9 owner here.

 

Water does get splashed up.

 

I have to ride slower to 20kmh, I can't go any higher otherwise I'd slip in the wet. At that speed there's no water splashing onto me.

 

 

 

I would advise extending the front mudguard down if you can. Just so water isn't splashed up to where the cables into the main deck. I also placed a little tape over a hole on the bottom so water doesn't splash into the deck from there.

 

 

 

 

 

As FreedPEV said to me; doesn't matter if it gets a light splash, just make sure to dry it out as soon as possible.

 

 

 

spacedog:

 

I'm trying to decide between the Zero 8 / 9 or an E-TWOW GT2020 as replacement for my ES4.

 

 

As far as I can see, main differences is weight and it has a 500W motor. Disadvantages I see is that it only has a drum brake.

 

I went past the Zero 8 because it only had one brake on a wheel. Drum brake is nice on my Zero 9, but you need a powerful brake (like a disc brake) to stop in a hurry. I chose the Z9 because it has a brake on both wheels and it was a compromise from a Zero 10 because it had at least one disc brake.

 

For portability; that E-TWOW looks great for a lightweight scooter.


spacedog
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  #2649967 9-Feb-2021 08:34
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BlueOwl:

 

spacedog:

 

Any Zero 8 or Zero 9 owners that can comment about how they feel it handles riding on wet roads and whether the mudguard prevents back splatter?  I'm not looking to ride in the rain, but it's Auckland and so riding on damp streets that haven't dried out is just going to happen.  I have an ES4 and I had to 3D print a mudguard extender for this purpose.  Otherwise it was rideable on wet streets (albeit definitely at a reduced speed and much slower cornering).

 

I'm trying to decide between the Zero 8 / 9 or an E-TWOW GT2020 as replacement for my ES4.

 

 

Speaking as a Zero 9 owner, any water on the ground  - puddles, etc. will get flicked up by the rear wheel and up the back of your legs. The front wheel isn't such a problem as the spray gets blocked by the deck.

 

I cut some thin bits of rubber sheet and stuck them onto the plastic fenders to bring them a couple of cm lower. Works a treat.

 

 

 

 

Got any photos of this hack and how it's attached?


 
 
 
 

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BlueOwl
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  #2650070 9-Feb-2021 10:49
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spacedog:

 

Got any photos of this hack and how it's attached?

 

 

Rear wheel:

 

 

 

 

Front:

 

 

 

 

Rubber is 75mm wide x 1.5mm thick, sourced from Para Rubber. It's fixed on with hot-melt glue - I thought about screws and things, but there's very little clearance between the guard and the tyre. I needed to take both fenders off to clean and lightly score the inside of them and fit the rubber properly.

 

Note also the hack to stop the rear brake cable from slipping through the holding screw - the brass inside of an electrical connector block.

 

Edit: smaller images


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