Would silent comfort tyres really help reduce road noise on our rough chipseal roads?

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dusty42

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Master Geek

#2385337 5-Jan-2020 12:12

learnGZ:

That's nice to hear! For sure not as quiet as driving on asphalt but are your Turanza Serenity also noticeably quieter on chipseal road than your previous tyres on the same chip surface?

Noticeably quieter for sure. Meant that we turned the stereo down a couple of notches.

Previous tires Michelin-somethings came with vehicle ex-Japan, and of course alignment was well off.

Vehicle is a Volvo wagon: laminated windows, heaps of sound dampening, panel gaps designed to reduce noise. On good road surface the car is pretty darn quiet.

With the Bridgestone promotion at the time they seemed pretty good value, so don't feel we paid any premium for them, and they are a lot cheaper than proper performance tires.

mudguard

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Uber Geek

#2385393 5-Jan-2020 15:05

It's an interesting thread. From what I vaguely remember the noise comes from the air gaps in the tread, so the 4WD/Mud tires makes lots of noise because of the big gaps.

I have nothing to add other than I've had the same tires from my 2014 Camry to my 2019 Corolla and the Corolla is a considerably quieter car. I've never thought about finding a quiet tire, generally after the first set I put Bridgestone Ecopias on them. My track Civic has different tires again.

Sadly the only way to test is find someone with the same car and measure it.

mattwnz

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#2385397 5-Jan-2020 15:29

The mazda 3 has a lot of road noise especially if you got the low profile types, and especially on chip roads. I think they improved it a bit on the facelift model, as apparently that was one of the upsells on the facelift model. Not sure how it is on the newest model.

alasta

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#2385407 5-Jan-2020 16:13

mattwnz:

The mazda 3 has a lot of road noise especially if you got the low profile types, and especially on chip roads. I think they improved it a bit on the facelift model, as apparently that was one of the upsells on the facelift model. Not sure how it is on the newest model.

About a year ago I upgraded from a pre-facelift third generation Mazda 3 to a CX-5 which has Mazda's latest sound deadening features. The difference is quite noticeable, but I am particularly sensitive to tyre roar on chipseal so would still be willing to pay a premium for tyres if they could further reduce the noise.

CitizenErased

207 posts

Master Geek

#2386752 7-Jan-2020 14:45

I haven't had a chance to try them myself, but my research indicates the Michelin Primacy is one of the quietest tyres available. I'd love to hear some real world feedback on them in regards to how quiet they are on chip seal.

learnGZ

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#2386761 7-Jan-2020 15:08

CitizenErased:

I haven't had a chance to try them myself, but my research indicates the Michelin Primacy is one of the quietest tyres available. I'd love to hear some real world feedback on them in regards to how quiet they are on chip seal.

Me too. i have only hear good things about Michlin Primacy 4. However they are expensive. I like to hear more thoughts of users with different tyres. :)

CitizenErased

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Master Geek

#2386815 7-Jan-2020 15:28

learnGZ:

CitizenErased:

I haven't had a chance to try them myself, but my research indicates the Michelin Primacy is one of the quietest tyres available. I'd love to hear some real world feedback on them in regards to how quiet they are on chip seal.

Me too. i have only hear good things about Michlin Primacy 4. However they are expensive. I like to hear more thoughts of users with different tyres. :)

You can often get them in a "Buy 3, get 1 free" deal, but still quite pricey. Besides being quiet, they perform extremely well in performance tests, e.g. wet braking distance, and Michelin construct their tyres in multiple layers so that as they wear, they maintain their high performance characteristics (a lot of tyres lose grip as they wear, because the rubber hardens).

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MikeAqua

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Uber Geek

#2386869 7-Jan-2020 16:49

I have a 100km return daily commute and have the same issue. I have found quieter tyres are softer and don't last as long. I suspect we have hard/noisy tyre compounds in NZ due to the prevalence of chip seal roads. I just turn the stereo up.

Mike

learnGZ

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Geek

#2386876 7-Jan-2020 17:08

For Michelin 'you get what you pay for'. It makes me want just pay it and hope it lives up to its name.

learnGZ

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Geek

#2386877 7-Jan-2020 17:09

MikeAqua:

I have a 100km return daily commute and have the same issue. I have found quieter tyres are softer and don't last as long. I suspect we have hard/noisy tyre compounds in NZ due to the prevalence of chip seal roads. I just turn the stereo up.

Hello Mike, what quiet tyres were you using? How much quieter are they compared to normal tyres on chipseal road?

aspett

122 posts

Master Geek

#2386881 7-Jan-2020 17:16

I had a full set of Primacy 4s installed on our 2008 Mazda 3 just before Christmas, and they are slightly quieter. I mostly notice how quiet they are around town. There is still a lot of noise on the open road - probably quieter, but I wouldn't say it was as quiet as I'd like. I'm also pretty happy with their performance in general. Car felt like it handled a lot better on the 4 trips I've done since they've been installed.

CitizenErased

207 posts

Master Geek

#2392183 14-Jan-2020 18:53

I've got a short anecdote to share. A while ago I test drove a 2014 Mazda 3 hatch with factory 18" wheels. I was surprised at how quiet it was, after reading all the reviews in the motoring press that moan about the high level of tyre noise in the cabin. Unfortunately I didn't note what tyres were fitted. Fast forward to a week ago when I drove the same model Mazda 3 hatch with 16" factory wheels. This one had a much higher level of tyre noise in the cabin. The difference was huge. Normally big wheels with low profile tyres are a recipe for higher noise levels, because low profile tyres have stiff sidewalls which means more vibration (vibration creates sound waves) is transmitted from the road to the body of the car. But after this experience, I have to say tyre choice can have a big impact.

learnGZ

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Geek

#2392208 14-Jan-2020 20:04

CitizenErased:

I've got a short anecdote to share. A while ago I test drove a 2014 Mazda 3 hatch with factory 18" wheels. I was surprised at how quiet it was, after reading all the reviews in the motoring press that moan about the high level of tyre noise in the cabin. Unfortunately I didn't note what tyres were fitted. Fast forward to a week ago when I drove the same model Mazda 3 hatch with 16" factory wheels. This one had a much higher level of tyre noise in the cabin. The difference was huge. Normally big wheels with low profile tyres are a recipe for higher noise levels, because low profile tyres have stiff sidewalls which means more vibration (vibration creates sound waves) is transmitted from the road to the body of the car. But after this experience, I have to say tyre choice can have a big impact.

Hello CitizenErased, thanks for your sharing. Your conclusion is very interesting. I have been thinking for a long time to downgrade from 17inch to 15inch and buy a set of silent tyres. From your findings, I could save the trouble finding 15 inch wheels and selling 17inch. I would just buy a set of 17inch of silent rubbers.

CitizenErased

207 posts

Master Geek

#2392209 14-Jan-2020 20:15

learnGZ:

CitizenErased:

I've got a short anecdote to share. A while ago I test drove a 2014 Mazda 3 hatch with factory 18" wheels. I was surprised at how quiet it was, after reading all the reviews in the motoring press that moan about the high level of tyre noise in the cabin. Unfortunately I didn't note what tyres were fitted. Fast forward to a week ago when I drove the same model Mazda 3 hatch with 16" factory wheels. This one had a much higher level of tyre noise in the cabin. The difference was huge. Normally big wheels with low profile tyres are a recipe for higher noise levels, because low profile tyres have stiff sidewalls which means more vibration (vibration creates sound waves) is transmitted from the road to the body of the car. But after this experience, I have to say tyre choice can have a big impact.

Hello CitizenErased, thanks for your sharing. Your conclusion is very interesting. I have been thinking for a long time to downgrade from 17inch to 15inch and buy a set of silent tyres. From your findings, I could save the trouble finding 15 inch wheels and selling 17inch. I would just buy a set of 17inch of silent rubbers.

It was a used import I was looking at with 215/45R18 tyres. I don't recall the brand, but remember it was one of those cheap Chinese tyres like Roadstone.

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